White cheeked and new Hollands

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Subject: White cheeked and new Hollands
From: Peter Morgan <>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:56:38 +1100
We had both the New Holland and the White-cheeked together in the early 
nineties in the coastal heath near Brooms Head (near Maclean, south of Yamba on 
the NSW North Coast).
I think it was the first sighting for the New Holland for us.  We must have got 
lucky because we have not seen the NH here ever since.

The White-cheeked HE used to be the most common bird around the village, but 
virtually disappeared when the Council "tidied up" the heath on the high 
frontal dune.  It seems to have reduced considerably in numbers in the nearby 
heath in Yuraygir NP.

White-breasted Woodswallows used to be common as well until they lost a nesting 
tree in the same clean-up 

Peter and Bev Morgan

On 17/01/2012, at 4:22 PM, "Alan Stuart" <> wrote:

> Mick asked me to comment about White-cheeked Honeyeaters in the Hunter
> Region of NSW.  They are a very common bird within an eastern (near-coastal)
> strip around here, where they co-occur with New Holland H/E but in far
> greater numbers generally except where there is heath - then the New Holland
> becomes the dominant species. White-cheeked Honeyeaters are much less common
> inland (about 98% of the local records of them in the BA Atlas are from the
> eastern part of the Region). I have never seen them in the Gloucester Tops
> and in nearly 200 surveys by birdwatchers in the Tops in the past two years
> (as part of our Rufous Scrub-bird studies) they have not been recorded. So
> they are very uncommon in the high country, and are relatively infrequently
> reported from elsewhere outside of the near-coastal strip. Mick is correct
> about New Holland H/E being found in the high country. Their numbers up
> there vary from year to year.
> Alan Stuart
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Mick Roderick
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 1:08 PM
> To: Stephen Ambrose; 'Russ Lamb'; 'Wayne Ellis'; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] White cheeked and new Hollands
> This is an interesting topic, and I wasn't aware of the Recher article,
> thanks Stephen.
> I know the original question was in relation to SE Qld but I was surprised
> to read that they hardly overlap there and in NE NSW. In the Hunter we see
> both species together at a number of sites and not always in the same
> habitat. 
> Both occur in the coastal heaths seaward of Lake Macquarie and the Myall /
> Great Lakes. In the areas of coastal heath where "heath specialists" like
> Tawny-crowned HE's occur, the New Holland often dominates (and the text in
> Pizzey's field guide about the coastal distribution of the New Holland is a
> little bit out).
> Both are recorded at high altitudes in Gloucester Tops (>1100m), though I'm

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