Sorry Joy, I wasn¹t having a shot at you, rather answering Philip, and
should have worded my reply more carefully.
I really liked your story as well you expressed your happiness in your
expedition beautifully. I well remember crazy things I¹ve done on the spur
of the moment. (although they differ a bit from yours). Like accepting a
job shooting buffalo, or dancing Zorba the Greek with a principal member of
the Kirov Ballet (after too many brown vodkas, I might add); spending hours
standing up to my knees in mangrove mud (once at midnight) waiting for
I often guide birders who like you, have that joy of discovery, and I share
it with them.
A major reason many of those I guide, and American respondents to my
questionnaire, watch birds is to ³feel a special connection with the
environment.² And I do my best to help them make that connection,
sometimes aided by my Aboriginal relatives. Quite recently a relative ,
Una, and I took American writer, Jonathon Franzen, to Spirit Dog Dreaming in
western Arnhem Land. He saw two birds, one a Whistling Kite (and you¹d know
how common they are) and a Sandstone Shrike-thrush. It wasn¹t so much the
birds that made an impression on Jon, but that they appeared to be duetting,
their songs echoing around the escarpment walls. And in that place you
might not know but the spirit dog is a thylacine. And then there were the
red ochre rings around all the trees standing in the white sand a senior
traditional owner had died. It seemed to be the ultimate sendoff !
However, Jon nearly spoiled the moment when he went to squat by the water¹s
edge. Later thinking about it I thought from the look on his face that he
was going to meditate. One does not do such a thing so near a pool occupied
by a large, hungry crocodile. Una and I screamed a warning and dragged him
away Despite that rather dramatic ending I doubt that Jon will forget
those few hours.
if your day was as awesome then good on you.
on 14/11/11 2:08 PM, Alistair McKeough at wrote:
> What a ridiculous (and sanctimonious) comment. Does anyone seriously think
> that the planes won't be flying because one person doesn't buy a ticket?
> Even if they wouldn't have, what right does that give people to take a lovely
> anecdote that somebody chooses to share about their own life
> and politicise it? I wish all the self-appointed "carbon
> conscious" proselytism people would just live the way they want and otherwise
> remain silent.
> Thank you for sharing a lovely story Joy - it sounds like a wonderful trip & a
> couple of brilliant birds!
> On 14 November 2011 15:20, Denise Goodfellow <>
>> that's a very thoughtful answer. I know that not all who go racing off
>> after some vagrant or another are not necessarily pathological collectors.
>> However, there are some I really do wonder about. One of the questions I
>> ask in my PhD questionnaire on American birders is whether they've ever felt
>> themselves in danger while birding. Quite a number have - they've mostly
>> been held up at gunpoint, robbed or kidnapped in Central or South America.
>> I've found myself in danger quite a few times without putting myself there
>> on purpose.
>> I'd like to know how many members of Birding Aus would drop everything to
>> see a new bird, all else being equal.
>> John's point about carbon emissions is also valid as far as I'm concerned.
>> Yes, planes will continue to fly to Broome whether birders are on them or
>> not. But shouldn't we all be setting examples of restraint and good
>> behaviour to others? That's why Michael and I don't have a cat, and why our
>> electricity usage at home is 1/3 the Australian average.
>> We may have little impact even in our own neighbourhood, but that doesn't
>> mean we should stop trying.
>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow B.A. Grad.Dip.Arts
>> 1/7 Songlark Street, Bakewell NT 0832, AUSTRALIA
>> Ph. 61 08 89 328306
>> Mobile: 04 386 50 835
>> Birdwatching and Indigenous tourism consultant
>> PhD Candidate (Southern Cross University, NSW)
>> Interpreter/transcriber, Lonely Planet Guide to Aboriginal Australia
>> Vice-chair, Wildlife Tourism Australia
>> www.fatbirder.com/ <http://www.fatbirder.com/>
>> For copies of Birds of Australia¹s Top End or Quiet Snake Dreaming, visit
>> amazon.com <http://amazon.com>
>> "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him
>> to hold in higher regard those who think alike
>> than those who think differently."
>> on 14/11/11 12:20 PM, Philip Veerman at wrote:
>>> > Sure it is fun to go on an adventure like that if you can afford it and
>>> > the bird is one worth seeing. It is a nice story. I also think the
>>> > carbon offset is tokenism but it is at least something. What raised my
>>> > curiosity though is the mention "and the chance to see it in Australia".
>>> > Yes that decision possibly emits less carbon etc and possibly costs
>>> > rather less than to see one where it normally lives. (As I wrote before
>>> > I saw two of them in China and if you pick your time, airfares to China
>>> > are likely a lot less expensive than quick purchased Melbourne to
>>> > Broome, but of course there are many other greater risks and
>>> > considerations.) I wrote long ago that I would rather see a Secretary
>>> > bird on the plains of Africa than in Canberra. I may be misunderstanding
>>> > but think the implied suggestion somewhat curious that it is nicer to
>>> > see a bird where it ought not to be, than in its usual habitat and
>>> > range.
>>> > I wonder does it work the other way? If someone found a colony of
>>> > Gouldian Finches near Port Moresby PNG, would Australian birders rather
>>> > go there to see them than try their luck in northern Australia.
>>> > Philip
>>> > Kambah ACT
>>> > -----Original Message-----From:
>>> > On Behalf Of Joy Tansey
>>> > Sent: Monday, 14 November 2011 9:57 AM To: 'birding-aus' Subject:
>>> > [Birding-Aus] Hoopoe at Broome
>>> > HI All,
>>> > In a moment of sanity I decided I couldn't resist the call of the
>>> > number 1 bird on my bucket list of birds I must see before I go .....
>>> > and the chance to see it in Australia. So in a mad 23 hours from front
>>> > door to front door I made a day trip from Melbourne to Broome. I spent
>>> > more time flying than on the ground in Broome, but by 10.45am Sunday
>>> > morning I was in place and restlessly pacing up and down at Roebuck
>>> > roadhouse. By lunchtime I had the hoopoe and spent a pleasant hour
>>> > watching, filming and phoning people to brag. By 1pm I was on my way to
>>> > check a few waders and with advice from Chris Hassell ringing in my ears
>>> > was able to get equally crippling views and photos (to my standard) of
>>> > the Semi-palmated Plover. Then it was back to the airport and head home,
>>> > with an awesome day to remember.
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Joy Tansey
>>> > 60 Myers Parade
>>> > Altona Meadows Vic 3028
>>> > ph: 03 9315 6595
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