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Glossy Black-Cockatoo name

To: 'Carol Probets' <>, 'PETER MORGAN' <>, 'Philip Veerman' <>
Subject: Glossy Black-Cockatoo name
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:38:15 +1100
I sometimes wonder if this type of name is invented by someone looking at a 
specimen in their hand, where such subtle differences are easily seen, but 
nearly invisible at a normal distance.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  On Behalf Of 
> Carol Probets
> Sent: Friday, 21 October 2011 9:13 AM
> To: PETER MORGAN; Philip Veerman
> Cc: Birding-aus (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Glossy Black-Cockatoo name
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Regarding the glossiness of the Glossy Black-Cockatoo, when seen 
> closely in good sunlight and at the right angle, the wing, body and 
> tail feathers have a beautiful glossy sheen. You have to get a really 
> good view to see it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Carol
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 7:37 PM +1000 19/10/11, PETER MORGAN wrote:
> >yeah, g'day Phil
> >
> >While I don't like to clutter up Bird-Aus, just to clarify, I mean 
> >that maybe the red panels are/were the "glossy" part referred to.  I 
> >have no basis for this other than that is how i've always thought it 
> >went. Certainly there is nothing "glossy" about the rest of the bird.
> >
> >Peter
> >On 19/10/2011, at 4:41 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:
> >
> >>  Hi Peter,
> >>
> >>  Maybe. It would add some odd consistency to Red-, Yellow- 
> and White- (as
> >>  the other ones were called). I have not come across that 
> name. If so, it
> >>  adds an idea but I may still wonder why would someone 
> think its tail was
> >>  glossy. Or indeed any part of it. HANZAB comments that 
> this species
> >>  differs in appearance from the Red-tailed Black-Cockatoo by (among
> >>  several things) not being glossy. I wonder if the names ever got
> >>  confused and switched.
> >>
> >>  And yes Donald wrote to me, not surprisingly, that his 
> spelling was just
> >>  a "careless placement of a hyphen" and no renaming 
> intended. Either way
> >>  I thought the name is worth commenting on.
> >>
> >>  Philip
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>  From: PETER MORGAN 
> >>  Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 4:27 PM
> >>  To: Philip Veerman
> >>  Cc: 'Donald G. Kimball'; 
> >>  Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Parrots that harass raptors
> >>
> >>
> >>  was it originally a "Glossy-tailed Black Cockatoo"?
> >>
> >  > Peter Morgan
> 
> 
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> PO Box 330
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