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LifeStraw

To: "Carl Clifford" <>, "Stephen Ambrose" <>
Subject: LifeStraw
From: Stephen Ambrose <>
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:06:19 +1000
 

Thanks for this clarification Carl. There's obviously a discrepancy
between what is stated in Wiki and what is stated on the LifeStraw
packaging. 

If the LifeStraw can filter out water particles down to 0.2 micron, it
would indeed filter out nearly all bacteria, amoeboid protozoans and some
viruses . But my  concern still remains with respect to viruses, because
the size range of many of them is 0.005 to 0.3 micron. Perhaps those
viruses that occur in potenial drinking water are among the larger
viruses (>0.2 micron across)?

Stephen Ambrose 

   BTW Stephen, I have just looked at the packaging of my LifeStraw and 
 it says that LifeStraw filters out particles down to 0.2 microns. Be 
 happy to send you a scan of the packaging. But then again Google knows 
 best.

 Cheers,

 Carl Clifford

 On 09/09/2011, at 3:02 PM, Stephen Ambrose wrote:

 Most viruses are within the 5 to 300 nanometers (5 to 300 millionths 
 of a
 millimetre) size range.

 Most bacteria range in size from 0.2 to 2.0 microns (0.2 to 2.0 one
 thousandths of a millimetre)

 According to Wikipedia, Lifestraw filters out water particles that are 
 as
 small as 15 microns.

 Amoebozoa vary greatly in size, but many are only 10 to 20 microns 
 across.
 However, others are several 100s microns across.

 Based on this information, it would appear that the Lifestraw would 
 not be
 very reliable in filtering out waterborne viruses and bacteria or some
 protozoans from drinking water.

 Stephen Ambrose
 Ryde NSW

 -----Original Message-----
 From: 
  On Behalf Of John 
 Leonard
 Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 1:24 PM
 To: Birding-aus
 Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] LifeStraw

 Sounds like a great idea, however although it will "filter out a
 minimum of 99.9% of bacteria, viruses and protozoans" presumably it
 wouldn't do anything about the chemical pollution of water, which
 might be a problem in intensively farmed areas.

 John Leonard

 On 9 September 2011 12:58, Carl Clifford  
 wrote:
 > Dear B-A,
 >
 > I have recently come across LifeStraw
 >  , a small (22cm x 
 > 3.5cm),
 > lightweight (approx 30g) tube, with a mouth-piece at one end. It will
 filter
 > out a minimum of 99.9% of bacteria, viruses and protozoans. With a
 > LifeStraw, you can safely drink water from sources which you would
 normally
 > hesitate to wash in. A personal LifeStraw will purify up to 1000 
 > litres of
 > water ( or to put it into context, the equivalent to one pallet of 
 > bottled
 > water). There is also a "family" LifeStraw, which has a grater flow 
 > rate
 and
 > is capable of purifying up to 18,00 litres of water, which would be 
 > useful
 > for use in semi-permanent camps.. While our town water supplies are,
 > usually, drinkable, having to cart your own water everywhere can be 
 > a bit
 of
 > a pain. Being able to safely drink water from just about any creek, 
 > dam or
 > water-hole, does have its advantages, especially if you are stuck 
 > out in
 the
 > bush somewhere. A useful thing to add to your emergency kit. 
 > Unfortunately
 I
 > don't think it will make bore water any more palatable.
 >
 > I bought a couple from the local agent
 >  , cost $20.95 + p&p. I am 
 > going to
 > Sabah next month and will try mine out in a variety of waters. It 
 > will be
 > interesting to see what the Kinabatangan water tastes like.
 >
 > Profits from sales of LifeStraw are used to subsidise the 
 > distribution of
 > LifeStraw to individuals and communities in the third world. A nice 
 > idea,
 > buy one and reduce your own water supply costs when birding and help 
 > save
 > the lives of others.
 >
 > I have no affiliation commercial or otherwise with LifeStraw, apart 
 > from
 > being a customer who thinks it is a brilliant concept.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Carl Clifford
 >
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 -- 
 John Leonard
 Canberra
 Australia

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