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CORRECTION Grey-backed Storm-petrel, NO Salvin's Albatross and more, Syd

To: Jeff Davies <>, "" <>
Subject: CORRECTION Grey-backed Storm-petrel, NO Salvin's Albatross and more, Sydney pelagic 13th August
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 06:18:08 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your comment.
Steve Howell's paper (Neotropical Birding 4: 19-25) has pictures of birds that 
he claims to be juv. Chatham Albatross.
The paper is freely available - just google it.

Cheers,

Nikolas

 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


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From: Jeff Davies <>
To: 'Nikolas Haass' <>; 
Cc: 'Troy Mutton' <>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 11:04 PM
Subject: CORRECTION Grey-backed Storm-petrel, NO Salvin's Albatross and more, 
Sydney pelagic 13th August

G'day Nikolas,

Raja's photos of the juv Salvin's from Wollongong june last year, on this
side of the Tasman, is the most useful set you should be looking at in that
link. 
EG., note how dark the bill is, darker than an adult as you would expect.
The Sydney bird in question from this year has a bill that is paler than an
adult Salvin's.
Does anyone out there have photos of definite juvenile Chatham's.

Cheers Jeff.




-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Nikolas Haass
Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011 9:28 PM
To: Nikolas Haass; 
Cc: Troy Mutton
Subject: CORRECTION Grey-backed Storm-petrel, NO Salvin's
Albatross and more, Sydney pelagic 13th August

Hi all,

Sorry for this late correction. There was some discussion about one of the
Shy-type albatross during Hal Epstein's Sydney pelagic (13th August - not
sure if the report of this excellent trip was sent out). 
There 
were a total of at least three juv. Shy-type Albatross during the trip.
Initially, I called one bird a young Shy-type. Then due to a number of
reasons - very dark head with paler 
forehead and throat, very dark mantle, very extensive blackish (albeit 
not perfectly "dipped in ink") primary tips, smudgy leading edge of the 
"hand" - I got confused and thought that it might be a young Salvin's 
instead. 
For a number of reasons - mainly the not perfect primary tips 
and the lack of the smudgy leading edge of the "arm" - we then decided 
that it was a JUV. WHITE-CAPPED ALBATROSS (as the other two), but this 
one with exceptionally extensive black primary tips. See also discussion on
the SOSSA website:
http://www.sossa-international.org/forum/showthread.php?49-Shy-White-capped-
Salvin-s


Raja's pictures of this and the two other birds (possibly also juv.
"White-capped") here:
http://www.adarman.com/Pelagics/2011-August-13-Sydney-Pelagic/18525451_4CF4h
R#1430019402_PC4cw7j
(Now all labeled "White-capped")

Here, some of Raja's photos of "real" Salvin's from either side of the
Tasman
Sea:http://www.adarman.com/Birds/Albatross/Salvins-Albatross/16202666_9gLma#
918657671_TyZk6

Cheers,

Nikolas

 
----------------
Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


________________________________
From: Nikolas Haass <>
To: "" <>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:01 AM
Subject: Grey-backed Storm-petrel, Salvin's Albatross and more

Highlights of this Saturday's Sydney pelagic were yet another Grey-backed
Storm-petrel, a 1st or 2nd year Salvin's Albatross, a Wedge-tailed
Shearwater and a number of expected birds such as both exulans and gibsoni
Wandering, Shy, Black-browed, Campbell, Buller's, Indian Yellow-nosed
Albatross, Fairy Prion, Cape and Providence Petrel, Fluttering Shearwater,
Brown Skua.
Raja's pictures:
http://www.adarman.com/Pelagics/2011-August-13-Sydney-Pelagic/18525451_4CF4h
R#1430019402_PC4cw7j

Cheers,

Nikolas

 

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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW
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