Very good point Nikolas! I agree, listening to bird song is a great source of
information, and often it is also extremely beautiful to listen to.
I see the error in my previous comment now - I was just trying to think of the
question from a "year list perspective" (if you'll excuse my twitcher language)
I know my views will be different to others, really I'm just interested to hear
what everyone thinks.
Josh
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:39:30 -0700
From:
Subject: Year List Ethics (Poll)
To: ;
Joshua,
I disagree with you for two reasons:
(1) Listing for your own interest is unimportant. It is better to use your
observations for a bigger picture (e.g. conservation). In this case song (which
may indicate a territory) may be way more important than just a sight record.
(2) There are quite some "look alike" species, e.g. within the reed-warblers,
leaf-warblers, thrushes, nightjars, owls and many more... In these cases it may
be much more convincing if you hear them rather than only see them.
(3) Lots of birds have great songs - why then does listening to a hidden
skulker not fit the "aim to observe the beauty, behaviour and uniqueness of a
species"?
Have a look at the plates of Cleere & Nurney "Nightjars" and listen to the
accompanying CD! Which one is more fun?
Vote for hearing (in selected cases even for the "life list")
Cheers,
Nikolas
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Nikolas Haass
Sydney, NSW
From: Joshua Bergmark <>
To:
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: Year List Ethics (Poll)
Hi everyone
I, (being the reason that Max asked this question) only tick "seen" birds on my
yearlist. It just doesn't seem right to hear a bird and say it counts. Kind of
a contradiction to the term, birdWATCHING - where the whole aim is to observe
the beauty, behaviour and uniqueness of a species :)
So, one vote for seeing.
Joshua Bergmark
> From:
> To:
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:12:22 +1000
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Year List Ethics (Poll)
>
> Hey all,
>
> just a quick question: If you, like many birders, record ‘year lists’, do you
> tick birds only on sight alone or do you tick birds from call (even if you
> don’t end up seeing them). Personally if I hear a bird that would be new on
> my year list, I tick it as this saves me time trying to see a perhaps common
> species that I’ve seen many times before and so gives me more time to focus
> on birds I may not have seen. One questionable aspect of my practice is the
> fact that, if I hear a bird that would be a lifer for me and tick it on my
> year list that it only remains as a year tick until the day I do end up
> seeing and identifying the species in question.
>
> Basically I’m asking if you tick by sight or sound on your year list, not
> your life list.
>
> I would appreciate any/all answers!
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Max Breckenridge,
> Gladesville, Sydney.
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