A British Perspective on Urban Birds in Australia

To: "Philip Veerman" <>
Subject: A British Perspective on Urban Birds in Australia
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:50:09 +1000
I just read it as it was writ. As for journalistic habits, I will stay schtum, lest I draw wrath from on high.

Carl Clifford

On 26/04/2011, at 6:33 PM, Philip Veerman wrote:

Carl's comment probably comes from this extract:

"The noisy miner, a native with a distinctive, high-pitched call also
known as a 'squeaker', and the koel, a large cuckoo bird, are the most
common troublemakers.

The problem is that they are nocturnal birds. I personally like their
sound, but some people don't," Davis said."

It only appears to include Noisy Miners as the nocturnal birds (they
aren't) only because the sentence structure is confusing. The
implication is that it says Koels are. Which is certainly correct in
terms of their calling. What Carl has interpreted arises from the
annoying journalistic habit of joining sentences when they shouldn't and
making one sentence paragraphs and thus losing the right connections of


-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Laurie
Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2011 3:31 PM
To: Carl Clifford
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: A British Perspective on Urban Birds in

A bird that stirs during the night, must, ipso facto, be a nocturnal
bird.  Either that, or birds that are active when it is dark in the UK
must by definition be nocturnal.

On 26/04/2011, at 3:18 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:

Koels and Noisy Miners nocturnal birds? The bulk of Sydney's parrots
are part of a colony that used to enjoy the wetlands that existed
prior to settlement? All I can say is Oh Dear. At least they didn't
mention the Drop Bears and Sabre-toothed Antichinus. Perhaps they
were the subject of an earlier article.


Carl Clifford

On 26/04/2011, at 2:46 PM, Laurie Knight wrote:



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