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Camera and binocular shake

To: "'Carl Clifford'" <>, "'Peter Shute'" <>
Subject: Camera and binocular shake
From: "Tony Russel" <>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:55:37 +1030
Good grief. Now you've got me all stirred up and having to get off my b/s
and go have a look. It's all just too too much  !

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Clifford  
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 4:43 PM
To: Peter Shute
Cc: 'Tony Russel'; 'Colin R'; 
Subject: Camera and binocular shake

Peter,

That is a new definition of Finnstick on me. The Finnsticks I have  
always known are an adjustable type of walking stick. The design is  
based on ski poles and the were supposedly developed in Finland as a  
training aid for cross-country skiers for use in the summer. No hiker  
in Europe seems to think they are properly dressed when out walking,  
unless they have a pair. They certainly help with walking, taking some  
load off the legs and giving exercise to the upper arms. They are also  
known as hiking, walking or trekking poles.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 17/03/2011, at 4:43 PM, Peter Shute wrote:

So the ones you've seen reach the ground? From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnstick 
:
"A finnstick is the name given by birdwatchers to a stick used to  
support a binoculars. The one end of the stick is steadily attached to  
the binocular while the other end rests against the belly."

It sounds like there are several types.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Clifford 
> Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 4:33 PM
> To: Peter Shute
> Cc: 'Tony Russel'; 'Colin R'; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Camera and binocular shake
>
> Peter,
>
> Finnsticks can be found at outdoor and camping suppliers,
> monopods and
> the trekking type monopods can be found at a good photographic
> retailers. I suggest that you go along to one or more of each
> and do a
> comparison. Much easier than trying to explain to you. Sorry I can't
> suggest such suppliers in Melbourne, as I have not been there
> for over
> 40 years. Too difficult to get a Mexican visa.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 17/03/2011, at 11:42 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>
> I might be wrong, but I thought a Finnstick was much shorter than a
> monopod, and that the bottom is supposed to clip onto your belt if
> you're standing up, or rest on your lap if you're sitting down. If
> that's correct then it would have the advantage of being
> easier to pan
> with, as well as being half the weight. I'm not sure if you actually
> screw the binoculars onto the top, or if you simply rest them on a
> cross piece.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 
>>  On Behalf Of
>> Tony Russel
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 11:20 AM
>> To: 'Colin R'; 'Carl Clifford'
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Camera and binocular shake
>>
>> It's probably a lot cheaper and maybe lighter.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Colin R 
>> Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 9:25 AM
>> To: Carl Clifford; Tony Russel
>> Cc: 
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Camera and binocular shake
>>
>> Hey Guys
>>
>> How is this different from a monopod?
>>
>> Colin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:32 +1100, "Carl Clifford"
>> <> wrote:
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> Finnsticks are regularly used by bushwalkers & trekkers widely
>>> (particularly handy if you have knees named Dicky and Dodgy, like
>>> mine). There are even models produced with lightweight ball
>> heads or
>>> with just 1/4" UNF screws on the top to mount your camera
>> or scope on.
>>> All are adjustable. Mighty handy for old crocks.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carl Clifford
>>>
>>> On 16/03/2011, at 10:14 AM, Tony Russel wrote:
>>>
>>> Apparently the Finns use a thing called a Finnstuck, which
>> is a light
>>> slender stick with a flat platform on the top. Good for
>> steadying binos.
>>> Thought I might try making one up with a height adjustment
>> to get the
>>> level
>>> right for viewing.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 
>>>  On Behalf Of Carl
>>> Clifford
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2011 6:15 PM
>>> To: brian fleming
>>> Cc: 
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Camera and binocular shake
>>>
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> You might like to look at a Stedistock http://www.stedistock.com/ I
>>> have used one for a while and found it quite good for
>> lighter camera &
>>> lens combination. It is like a light, plastic rifle stock,
>> with a hand-
>>> grip on the front end. If I remember rightly, it costs
> around USD30.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carl Clifford
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/03/2011, at 6:31 PM, brian fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> Some years ago I had to abandon my Canon T70 and 500 mm
>> mirror lens as
>>> my eyes weren't working well enough (now upgraded via cataract
>>> removal). Last year I took over my wife's digital
> Panasonic when she
>>> upgraded.
>>>
>>> It is so light as to be awkward to carry hanging from my
>> fingertips as
>>> I did with the Canon; it is also so light that it needs support to
>>> steady it at maximum zoom of about 400 mm film equivalent - I have
>>> just checked the 500 mm lens to see whether old age has attacked my
>>> hands as well as my eyes. It has, but the extra mass of the
>> old camera
>>> means the shake is much less - it's about 3 times as heavy as the
>>> digital - about 400 grams compared to 1.3 kg.
>>>
>>> I have contemplated finding a piece of steel plate to use as a
>>> stabilizer.
>>>
>>> Brian Fleming
>>> Melbourne
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>> -- 
>> Colin Reid
>> 
>> So many birds, so little time......
>>
>>
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