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RFI: Shy Albatross taxonomy

To: "'Glenn Ehmke'" <>, <>, "'Chris Watson'" <>
Subject: RFI: Shy Albatross taxonomy
From: "Jeff Davies" <>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 01:45:19 +1100
G'day Glenn,

When I last looked, both the IOC and Clements checklists list only three
species for this group. 
Chatham, Salvins and Shy, with White-capped (Thalassarche cauta steadi) a
ssp of Shy.

Cheers Jeff.



-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Glenn Ehmke
Sent: Monday, 14 February 2011 12:49 AM
To: ; Chris Watson
Subject: RFI: Shy Albatross taxonomy

Yeah I thought it was confusing too a year or so ago when I got into it
Chris, but actually Albatross taxonomy consistent around the world - the
Christidis and Boles (and Birds Australia) list is the only one that differs
as far as I know. See the birdlife international checklist for all the
details (http://www.birdlife.org/datazone/info/taxonomy), but the there are
4 "Shy" Albatrosses.
Shy (Thalassarche cauta) - Australian endemic, White-capped (Thalassarche
steadi) - NZ endemic, Salvin's (Thalassarche salvini) and Chatham
(Thalassarche eremita) -  NZ endemic.
There are small morohological and chromatic differences between Shy and
White Cap's but they are very, very similar looking (I sure can't pick
them). Salvin's and Chatham are easily picked. All the field guides I've
seen have them all described.
Glenn

--- On Sun, 13/2/11, Chris Watson <> wrote:

From: Chris Watson <>
Subject: RFI: Shy Albatross taxonomy
To: 
Received: Sunday, 13 February, 2011, 8:32 PM

I know taxonomy is in constant flux but does anyone know what I saw when I
was on a boat trip off South Bruny Island, Tasmania in January this year? It
was what I would call a Shy Albatross (Thalassarche cauta) but several
references disagree with me. I'm just having trouble working out which
authority to go by.

Can anyone fill me in with the excepted position on the taxonomy of these
birds as it stands?

Cheers,
           Chris Watson
           Alice Springs

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