privacy and groups

To: Jonny Schoenjahn <>
Subject: privacy and groups
From: Ian May <>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:51:49 +1100
Hello Jonny

As an occasional organiser of pelagic trips I always publish names of
participants as it shares acknowledgment of bird sightings and unusual
discoveries.  Many participants see it as a small reward for their input
and effort and I do it because it is good practice.   However if a
participant wants to opt out and does not want their name published, I
suggest they should just mention it to the organiser.

A list of names provides less personal information than would be found
in a telephone directory or electoral roll.


Ian May
St Helens, Tasmania
currently at Lady Barron wharf, Flinders Island.

Jonny Schoenjahn wrote:
Hi all

Whilst this is not essentially a bird topic, I wish to raise the question why 
group-trip reports on birding-aus sometimes come with a list of the 
participants. This includes reports from commercial tours.
Australian privacy law make it clear that prior permission should be obtained (in writing?) from tour participants before disclosing any private information about them. The authors of trip reports should maybe keep this in mind when posting to avoid any unintended consequences.

Much of the rest of the world, in particular Europe and North America, is very 
definite about not disclosing any private information to anyone, and I think 
the disclosure of passenger lists or information about guests or tour 
participants without explicit permission would qualify as a breach of the 
privacy aspect.

Although bird tour operators, pelagic trip organizers etc. probably don't have 
to worry about safety issues, as e.g. airlines do, I wonder why they want to 
publish the names of participants.


Jonny Schoenjahn
Perth WA

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