I can't agree Tim. It's costly enough to even get there and back
without
being slugged for entry once you get there - and who needs a guide
anyway
?
Far better to find them for yourself.
Tony.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Dolby
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 4:48 PM
To: Tony Russell; Birds
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] RE: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrots
I think you're being a little harsh Tony.
I think the cost is reasonable for a chance to see such an iconic and
hard
to find species. It was not that long ago that Mike Carter resorted to
drinking radiator water when his vehicle expired on the Canning Stock
Route
as he went in search of Princess Parrot. There are many species of
birds
that are best seen with the local assistance of a guide / bird guide,
with
this cost not dissimilar from the costs charged by birding tours.
The money also provides valuable financial assistance to the
traditional
land owners. Many conservation / birding organisations recognize the
importance of establishing positive relationships with local and
indigenous
people. Creating sustainable livelihoods through birdwatching
tourism for
indigenous people can have a real impact both on the lives of the
traditional land owners but also bird conservation. A recent example
of
this
is the Kakadu Birding Project (see
http://www.birdsaustralia.com.au/birds/kakadu-birding-project.html).
The
development of Import Bird Area (IBA) works along similar principles;
recognizing that working with local people and traditional land owners
has a
positive impact of local conservation.
Cheers,
Tim Dolby
________________________________________
From:
on behalf of Tony Russell
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:18 PM
To: Birds
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrots
Thank you John for this report and congrats on finding the PPs.
However:
I too thought about going but baulked at the excessive cost of a
permit
required to enter the restricted areas. $450 for a piece of paper
which
probably took a clerk about two minutes to make out is not my idea of
good value, no matter what tick is at stake. Someone is ripping us off
guys.
I'll wait til the PPs appear on non restricted land - and if they
don't,
well so be it, I'll go without.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of John Reidy
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 10:00 AM
To: Birding-Aus
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrots
Hi all.
Have just returned from a successful trip to see Princess Parrots near
King's Canyon NT. 5 of us (Allan Benson, Rob Benson, Alan Morris,
Margaret Reidy) booked through the Central Land Council. We met our
host
from the CLC and three aborigines representing the traditional owner
and
were led to a location off the Mereenie Loop road where the birds are
breeding. Initially it didn't look good as we were driving directly
into
a very sinister looking storm front. It had started to rain solidly
before we arrived at the site and we had no choice but to get out and
search for the parrots. We were soaked to the skin, cold and a bit
despondent before our aboriginal representatives gave a yell and we
saw
two birds in flight. These were rather poor views and we thought that
that might be it as the birds disappeared and there was no other
activity. But eventually we saw some more and after an hour or so the
weather eased up and we were eventually able to see the birds
sitting in
full sunshine sitting on dead branches, giving some good photographic
opportunities.
At this stage we were all ecstatic with the views we were getting. We
saw all up about 20 birds.
We had travelled via Alice Springs where we hired a Nissan Patrol and
travelled south down the Stuart Highway and took the Ernest Giles dirt
road as a shortcut. We paid for this with a blow out. As it rained on
Thursday and Friday nights at Kings Canyon, we elected to return to
Alice via the bitumen which was a longer way around, but we did see a
pair of Bustards on the way.
A word of warning, the Central Land Council is taking legal action
against some people that have trespassed on their land.
Happy birding!
--
John Reidy
Sydney
Phone 02 9871 4836
Fax 02 9871 2616
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