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Re: birding-aus Digest, Vol 56, Issue 36 Canon Camera & Lens

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Subject: Re: birding-aus Digest, Vol 56, Issue 36 Canon Camera & Lens
From: Salter Automotive <>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 22:35:26 +1100
Hi Richard

Re your Canon camera question.

First I must ask what do you do with your photos??
Second do you use Photoshop or Lightroom or Aperture.
Thirdly are yo after birds in flight or perched and nesting birds.

I ask this as the level of equipment varies with difficulty in getting the shot and your level of expertise.

And fitness re the big lenses.

Do you need the Video (once you have it you will).

I shoot 1D 2/3/4 and up to 800mm

Reply either on or off line

Scott Salter





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Today's Topics:

  1. Canon Cameras (Richard Jenkin)
  2. RE: Canon Cameras (Peter Shute)
  3. Yulara Trip (Richard Jenkin)
  4. Fw: Birds in garage door (Shirley Cook)
  5. RE: Fw: Birds in garage door (Peter Shute)
  6. Re: Fw: Birds in garage door (Roger Giller)
  7. Re: Canon Cameras (Stewart Ford)
  8. WTNTs twitched from dentist's chair  
  9. Torresian crows preying on sick feral pigeons (Belinda Cassidy)
 10. Re: Torresian crows preying on sick feral pigeons (Peter Shute)
 11. Re: Canon Cameras (Chris Charles)
 12. Re: Wandering Tattler in Newcastle (Mark Young)
 13. Re: Torresian crows preying on sick feral pigeons
     (Belinda Cassidy)
 14. Re: Canon Cameras (Robert Inglis)
 15. Re: Torresian crows preying on sick feral pigeons (Peter Shute)
 16. Fwd: [BIRDING-NZ] BirdingNZ.net Alert: Shining-bronze      cuckoo
     eating an egg (Chris)
 17. Re: Re: Canon Cameras (Alistair McKeough)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:07:46 +1100
From: "Richard Jenkin" <>
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Canon Cameras
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Hi all



I am wanting to upgrade my camera body from a Canon 450D to either a Canon
7D or Canon 1D mk4 and looking for some advice from those who know
or may
have used one or the other or both. I currently use a 100-400mm zoom lens.



The cost difference is about $4,000 so basically need to know is it worth
the extra money to the extent that you get much much better photos
or would
the jump from the 450D to 7D be enough.



Also how does the difference in  photos between the 100-400mm lens
compare
to the 300mm F2.8 with 2 x converter or the 500mm F4 lens ?



As so many birders seem to use Canon's ( cameras that is ! )
replying to the
list may be useful for the archives.



Thanks in advance





Dick Jenkin



Lynn and Dick Jenkin

Tashkent Friesians

PO Box 92 Dungog NSW 2420

02 49921158

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:36:31 +1100
From: Peter Shute <>
Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Canon Cameras
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I'd also be interested to hear what sort of difference there is
between the 450D and either of those more expensive cameras.

Peter Shute

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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Canon Cameras

Hi all



I am wanting to upgrade my camera body from a Canon 450D to
either a Canon 7D or Canon 1D mk4 and looking for some advice
from those who know or may have used one or the other or
both. I currently use a 100-400mm zoom lens.



The cost difference is about $4,000 so basically need to know
is it worth the extra money to the extent that you get much
much better photos or would the jump from the 450D to 7D be enough.



Also how does the difference in  photos between the 100-400mm
lens compare to the 300mm F2.8 with 2 x converter or the
500mm F4 lens ?



As so many birders seem to use Canon's ( cameras that is ! )
replying to the list may be useful for the archives.



Thanks in advance





Dick Jenkin



Lynn and Dick Jenkin

Tashkent Friesians

PO Box 92 Dungog NSW 2420

02 49921158


<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Django-of-Cacharel/147336717447?
ref=ts>
Djangos Facebook Page

<http://tashkentfriesians.com/> Tashkent Friesians

logosmall





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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:05:42 +1100
From: "Richard Jenkin" <>
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Yulara Trip
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Hi again



Onwards from Alice Springs. We flew to Ayers Rock from Alice to
spend 4
days, conference for Lynn , relaxing for me. I  originally had no
real plans
as to what birding I could do or what birds I might see so it was
nice to be
both relaxed and surprised at what I did see..



We often try and guess the first bird to be seen as we land in a new
location, neither of us got this one right as it was a single Banded Lapwing
at a small pool of water beside the runway .



Obviously the fabulous conditions after all the rain has transformed the desert into a much more productive site than would otherwise be the case.



There were a few surprises on the lack of species as well. I saw no Black or
Whistling Kites, despite trips to the STP as well ! Also no Little
Corella's
here or perhaps more surprising , none around Alice either.



Raptor numbers and variety in general were low out here, recording
Nankeen
Kestrel (5) , Australian Hobby (1) and Brown Falcon (1).



I did one mornings bird walk out about 4 kms from the accommodation at
Yulara , one to the STP and a base walk of Ayers Rock from 9.30 to
1.30, so
missing the early morning.



We also did a sunrise helicopter ride around the "rock" and Kata
Tjuta (
Olgas ) which was absolutely spectacular. Also saw a flock of
Budgerigars
from the chopper !. The other "highlight" was seeing the STP's from the air, that is , the main one and the aboriginal community one ( which had
much more in the way of open ponds). If I had had my big lens on I
might
have been able to ID the birds !



Around the resort itself , Yellow-throated Miners and White-plumed
Honeyeaters were the most common birds, followed by Torresian Crow, only a
handful of Magpie-larks and Willie Wagtails. Not as many as I
expected with
all the greenery and water around. Others included , Australian
Magpie,
Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike , Singing Honeyeater, Crested Pigeon and
Galahs (2
only).





Walking out from the resort the number of species increased with
White-winged Trillers, Crested Bellbird (4) , Budgerigars (many),
White-winged Fairy-wren (4), Inland Thornbill (5) , Crimson Chats
(heaps),
Black-faced Woodswallows and Masked Woodswallows ( several including new
fledglings and  a female sitting on a nest ).



Rufous Songlarks were about, but not as conspicuous as around
Alice , and
also surprisingly not calling! A single White-fronted Honeyeater
flew past
and several Pied Honeyeaters were seen along with 2 only Rainbow Bee- eaters. A small group of 6 Zebra Finches were seen and a flock of Cockatiel flew by.
Red-backed Kingfisher (3) present as well.



The trip to the treatment plant , which has a nice overflow area
with grassy
drains etc and the tallest Eucalypts around, revealed a few water
birds,
though none great in number. There were numerous Diamond Doves and Zebra
Finches around here as well.



Little Black Cormorant (1), Straw-necked Ibis (1), Grey Teal (8),
Great
Egret (2), Yellow-billed Spoonbill (1), White-faced Heron (2),
Eurasian Coot
(2), Australasian Grebe (2), and 1 Nankeen Night Heron flushed from
underfoot , I don't know who got the biggest fright !



Other birds around were a family of Variegated Fairy-wrens and Spiny- cheeked
Honeyeaters and Australian Hobby (1).



A sunset tour out to Kata Tjuta had everybody in the group ( non-
birders)
enthralled with a Little Button-quail and 4 young literally feeding around
our feet at the sunset viewing site.  Obviously used to people and
perhaps
feeding on insects attracted to the lights along the path. I looked
longingly down the Docker River Road , wondering if I could spot a
Scarlet-chested Parrot from 80kms away but not to be ....



The walk around Ayers Rock yielded 30 species, most of which I had
seen
elsewhere , except for the addition of Rufous Whistler (1), Grey
Shrike-thrush  (1), Grey-fronted Honeyeater (1) and Little
Woodswallow (1).
There were numerous Crimson Chats and also heaps of Diamond Doves , Zebra
Finches and Budgerigars around various water holes around the rock.





All up , 50 species for 4 days and again some good photos.



Cheers





Dick Jenkin





Lynn and Dick Jenkin

Tashkent Friesians

PO Box 92 Dungog NSW 2420

02 49921158

<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Django-of-Cacharel/147336717447?ref=ts>
Djangos Facebook Page

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:26:11 +1100
From: "Shirley Cook" <>
Subject: [Birding-Aus] Fw: Birds in garage door
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Dear all,

Can anyone suggest a solution to this person's problem? I have told her to keep doing what she is already doing and perhaps the birds will give up.

Regards

Shirley



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