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Princess Parrot in the News

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Subject: Princess Parrot in the News
From: Simon Mustoe <>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:59:09 +0000
Alan,

>From what I can understand, most people pulled out or haven't gone yet. I was 
>wondering if the "8 groups" referred to people that CLC had ACTUALLY caught 
>trespassing, or was this a but of "journalistic license", after Tim Dolby's 
>post that stated CLC were aware of 8 groups intending to head to the area, who 
>didn't (yet) have permits. If it was the latter, then the Age piece could be 
>misleading.

So, if Lindsay Murdoch from the Age could clarify this, it would be great to 
clear that up.

Personally, I was generally happy with the article except for that one line - 
since I am a birder and I feel a little annoyed at being labeled a trespasser. 
If there was evidence that 8 groups have trespassed, then so be it. If this 
isn't the case, then it is unfortunate, particularly as the birding community 
appears to have largely accepted the CLC's decision and is acting with full 
respect to the traditional owners' wishes. The only failure, to start with, was 
uncertainty about the permitting process - but the CLC were swift to clear this 
up and are to be commended for their quick and honest assistance.

Unless the Age was acting on advice that 8 groups had actually trespassed, what 
it has done, is condemned birders, who let's face it, are just watching birds. 
There is nothing particularly sinister about that - the issue is trespassing. 
Whether or not birders could be implicated in any trespass is a personal matter 
that really has nothing to do with birders as a whole. Birders are not bikey 
gangs ... they are just individuals out looking at wildlife. There is no 
representing force, collaboration or coordination behind their activities - 
aside from a few discussions on birding-aus, but then you could label grey 
nomads, four wheel-drivers and anyone else for similar misdemeanours if that 
were the case. This is a fact seemingly overlooked in the article.

If people trespass, they do so because they themselves have chosen to. So 
whether there is or is not evidence of trespass, I do believe that some readers 
of the Age, perhaps, could be left with the impression that birding is a sort 
of organised crime, where we all intend to trespass and no matter what happens, 
will do everything we can to secure that 'tick' - which of course is absolutely 
hilarious....as anyone knows, who has tried to organise large groups of birders 
to do anything in close to a coordinated way ; )

Regards,

Simon.






> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrot in the News
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:09:54 +1000
>
> Over the past couple of weeks, I noticed that there were many e-mails posted
> on birding-aus from people who were planning to go searching for Princess
> Parrots.  It's interesting that none of them have posted anything
> subsequently about the outcomes of their plans. Perhaps they all have
> dipped, and are embarrassed about it?  Or, perhaps they don't want to put
> down in writing anything that suggests they may have trespassed?
>
> Alan Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of John Penhallurick
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2010 4:18 PM
> To: 'Tim Dolby'
> Cc: 
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Princess Parrot in the News
>
> Tim,
> I am surprised that you are considering still going to Alice Springs given
> what the Age (accurately) reported. As far as I am aware, you cannot enter
> any of the aboriginal lands where the parrots have been reported.  I spoke
> to a ranger in the Watarrka National Park yesterday, and asked if there had
> been any sightings in the northwest of the park, the only northern area
> accessible by road. He said no, and that he himself had been there last week
> and had not seen any Princess Parrots
>
> Dr John Penhallurick
> 86 Bingley Cres
> Fraser A.C.T. 2615
> Australia
> email:
> Phone: Home (612) 62585428
> Mobile:0408585426
> Please visit my website: http://www.worldbirdinfo.net
>
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