I'd like to echo Paul's comments. I have also applied for the correct
permit online and also spoken in person with a lovely permits officer
on the phone today. I explained our circumstances and apologised that
we had initially planned to unwittingly do the wrong thing by just
arriving and hoping to pick up a permit. She appreciated that we were
trying to do the right thing and whilst couldn't guarantee anything
she is genuinely trying to do what she can to speed up the process.
Just have to wait and see what happens now.
I would also encourage everyone to simply give them a call and
politely ask them to help you obtain the appropriate permit.
The other groups i know of are all in the process of doing this.
I'm also keen to see all those other species you mentioned Mark so any
info you can pass on would be most appreciated! :)
Cheers
Dave
On 10/08/2010, at 7:11 PM, Paul G Dodd wrote:
Hi everyone,
Since I am a member of one of the groups heading to the Red Centre in
the
forthcoming weeks, I would like to state for the record that I have
applied
for all necessary permits and sought the requisite permission to enter
the
areas that he parrots have been seen most recently. I have personally
spoken
to the CLC and sent them detailed maps of where we intend travelling,
the
tracks that we intend taking and the dates that we intend travelling
to the
area. We have allowed sufficient time for the permit to be issued,
assuming
that it will be issued, based on direction from the CLC.
I should add that my wife, Ruth, and I have planned a visit to the Red
Centre at this time for almost the past year. We originally has no
intention
of trying for the Princess Parrots until, by coincidence, they were
reported
so close to Kings Canyon. The fact that they are present and, with any
luck,
we'll get a permit is simply a bonus for us.
The other birders that I have spoken to have all expressed their
intention
to apply for permits (or they have already applied). I strongly urge
everyone travelling to the area to call the CLC and ask them which
permit to
apply for, and how to apply for it. Additionally, allow sufficient
time for
the permit to be issued.
Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Mark Carter
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 6:26 PM
To:
Subject: Princess Parrot Situation-
Hi All.
I'm getting a bit concerned about the unfolding situation around the
newly
leaked Princess Parrot site west of Alice. The land where the birds
are is
aboriginal land- permits are required to access the area. I know most
people
will say they want to do the right thing but will that extend to a
situation
where doing the right thing will mean not getting anywhere near the
birds? The Central Land Council have quoted me a minimum of one month to
process permit applications for the sites- that is assuming traditional
owners are amenable to permits being issued at all which is not a
given by
any means. In my experience such permits regularly take longer than
predicted and refusals are not unknown. There are no short-cuts.The
CLC are
now aware of the many groups planning trips out here so anyone
thinking of
heading to the site 'under the radar' had better reconsider- chances
are you
will get busted. The fines for trespassing out there will be painful but
there
is also a bigger picture you should consider. A trespassing twitch event
out here could do massive harm to the reputation of birders in the Red
Centre. Access to wildlife sites can be very difficult for us locals
as it
is- I worry that trespassing birders in the coming weeks will lead to
the
reputation of birding being tarnished and local naturalists being denied
access to country through no fault of our own. So, if you are coming out
here please stick to the permit process. If you don't get approval in
time
for your trip then consider visiting other sites such as AWC Newhaven or
National Parks instead- conditions now are fantastic and Red Centre
specials
such as Rufous-crowned Emu-wren, Slaty-back Thornbill and Grey
Honeyeater
are out in good numbers.
Mark CarterAlice Springs
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