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RE: RE: [Birding-Aus] Taxonomy of Melithreptus Honeyeaters

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Subject: RE: RE: [Birding-Aus] Taxonomy of Melithreptus Honeyeaters
From: "Cas and Lisa Liber" <>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:15:17 +1000
Sorry - Million years ago
Cas 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Russell  
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:13 AM
To: 'Cas and Lisa Liber'
Subject: RE: RE: [Birding-Aus] Taxonomy of Melithreptus Honeyeaters

Very interesting Cas, but what does Ma signify ?  Millenia ago ?

Tony


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Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2010 7:20 AM
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Honeyeaters

I've now read the paper - the divergence between gularis and laetior is
pretty  recent  (0.3-1.2 Ma), while White-throated Honeyeater (Melithreptus
albogularis) split earlier (2.4-5.2 Ma) and is quite distinctive genetically
(if I read rightly, it may represent two species, one eastern and one
northern too)

Article also proposes divergence within the M. affinis-M. lunatus species
group occurred around 2-4.6 Ma, leading to eastern and western taxa followed
by the divergence within the eastern group around 1.2-3.2 Ma leading to the
endemic Tasmanian species, M. affinis and eastern M. lunatus.

Adds that validirostris got isolated in Tasmania earlier.

Cheers
Cas
-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Frank O"Connor
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:26 PM
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Subject: Taxonomy of Melithreptus Honeyeaters


I asked Ron Johnstone of the WA Museum about the proposed split of the
White-naped Honeyeater in the south west. His reply is below.

>Frank,
>      This is of interest to us as we separated the western form out 
>years ago treating it as a full species in our 2001 checklist and in 
>the WA bird handbook. Our name is the Western White -naped Honeyeater 
>Melithreptus chloropsis Gould, 1848. I notice no credit given to either 
>of our publications.
>
>Regards
>Ron

_________________________________________________________________
Frank O'Connor           Birding WA http://birdingwa.iinet.net.au
Phone : (08) 9386 5694              Email :  

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