RE: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: [Birding-Aus] Peafowl

To: <>, "'Dave Torr'" <>
Subject: RE: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: [Birding-Aus] Peafowl
From: "Carl Weber" <>
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:47:18 +1100
Hi Mark,

Where are the 2 populations. I am very keen to not tick them for my Northern
Beaches List.

I've previously ticked peafowl in Cairns - please tell me that this is OK.


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To: Dave Torr
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Subject: Re: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: [Birding-Aus] Peafowl

Is there a general consensus on this?

There are 2 populations of this bird on the Northern Beaches which I think
have been around for that time, but I can't prove that, and which I would
like to tick, but haven't. But having just ratified my list to be more
accurate I don't want to tick unless it's a valid tick. 

Also, how is the decision made that a certain population at a certain
location is now tickable?
And if you know of a population that isn't widely known, how do you get that
population to be accepted as being there for 10 years so it can be ticked? 


> Dave Torr <> wrote:
> Seems one of the ongoing questions on Birding-Aus is "is xxxx a tickable
> population". There seem to be two easy alternatives - either we count no
> introduced birds or we count them all. That would save a lot of debate I
> guess.... :-)
> Slightly more seriously - I guess it is very hard for anyone to 
> determine in
> many cases whether the population has been self-sustaining for the 
> required
> period of time (10 years I believe?). How do we know for any of these
> populations whether or not there have been further releases to boost the
> population - I recall that someone reckoned the Melbourne Bayside 
> Barbary
> Doves were being replenished by further releases from time to time? Does
> being fed artificially  stop them being self-sustaining?
> 2009/11/27 Bill Stent <>
> > I feel somehow that the Melbourne populations aren't tickable, but I'm
> > looking for a good reason why not.
> >
> > I'd be surprised if there were more than a dozen or so, which would 
> suggest
> > they might be partially supported by human feeding (although I've got 
> no
> > actual evidence for this).
> >
> > Bill
> >

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