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Thomas and Thomas new edition

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: Thomas and Thomas new edition
From: John Tongue <>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:52:42 +1000
My Thomas and Thomas (which is now fairly of of date!), has both site guides (state by state) and a bird-finding Species List in the back. IT seems to be both, but needs serious revision to be of much use.

Cheers,
John Tongue
Ulverstone, Tas.


On 22/04/2009, at 4:42 PM, Carl Clifford wrote:

Alan,

My Thomas & Thomas (ISBN 0 9528065 0 9) is a site guide, with each chapter covering a state. Are there two titles by Thomas & Thomas?

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


On 22/04/2009, at 3:31 PM, Alan McBride wrote:

Hi all,

Yes it's happening and hopefully it's more than half a book - thanks Russell ;-)

I would like to think it will be out by Christmas, depends on publisher.

As a reminder T & T is a Bird Finding Guide, (that is by species). It is NOT a site guide, there are excellent regional site guides available and the new version will be crediting and cross referencing where applicable to them all.

There are almost no other species finding specific guide books in the world, plenty on sites but no country has a book covering practically all the regular birds by species!

Best

Alan

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On 22/04/2009, at 3:10 PM, Peter Shute wrote:

"The Complete guide to finding the Birds of Australia" by Richard & Sarah Thomas has apparently been out of print for a couple of years, and I can't even find any second hand copies around. This web page says a new edition is due out this year:
http://www.wildsounds.com:
"The Complete guide to finding the Birds of Australia Richard & Sarah Thomas Out of Print. 180 of the best birding sites on mainland Australia and Tasmania. Information on locating all the resident birds and regular migrants. This title is now out of print, and we have no more stock. A new, revised edition will be published in 2009 280 pages."

Andrew Isles says "FORTHCOMING, due late 2009/early 2010".

Has anyone heard anything more about this? In particular whether these publishing dates sound accurate, and to what extent it's being revised?

Peter Shute

Russell Woodford wrote on Tuesday, 21 April 2009 5:18 PM:

Thomas and Thomas have half a book like you describe.


Russell Woodford


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On 21/04/2009, at 11:12 AM, Peter Shute wrote:

I'm guessing that she wasn't trying that hard up to that point.  It
could be that she concentrated on knowing those 307 fairly well,
although it does seem a bit low.  I'm only up to page three, maybe
there'll be an explanation further on.  Was your 307 just Australian
birds?  I'm fairly confident the 890 isn't.

Are you intending to write one?  I'm not sure how many of this type
of book the market can bear, but I think it could stand a few more.
The chapter on birding-aus would be interesting, something most
other books wouldn't have.

I'm looking forward to reading PV's review.

I just had an idea for a book.  All the where-to-find-birds books
I've seen are location based, i.e. you go to this place and you
might see this and this and this.  I don't know if there are any
species based ones, i.e for this species go to these places.  The
closest thing I've seen is the maps in the field guides.

It would be interesting to be able to see a list of locations for
each species for each state, rated by likelihood, and tips on how to
go about seeing them.  Some species are easy, you just walk around
till you see one. Others require that you walk till you hear one,
then follow the call, others need to be staked out, and many require
that you know the right habitat and where to look in it.

The might be books like this, but every time I need to research a
species I want to find I seem to have to search the Atlas, Eremaea,
birding-aus, Birdline, ask people, etc.  It might make a better web
site than a book, given that it might require a page or more per
species, and that some are best found by going to a recent sighting
location.

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