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Invasion of Indian crows sparks alert

To: "'David Stowe'" <>, "'Ian May'" <>
Subject: Invasion of Indian crows sparks alert
From: "Paul Dodd" <>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:18:24 +1100
Thanks Dave, a voice of reason in a topic that's been done to death.

Paul Dodd
Docklands, Victoria

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of David Stowe
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 7:03 PM
To: Ian May
Cc: 
Subject: Invasion of Indian crows sparks alert

I agree Ian!
I'm sure this was all discussed at length when it first arrived, but I  
know that the authorities were indeed notified very early on in the  
piece and decided not to act. I can't see what else us mere  
birdwatchers (or twitchers) can do??
There was a lack of resources coupled with the proximity to kids etc.  
If there were more than one then it sounded like action would have  
been forthcoming though.
I agree that we don't know when another one will turn up, and whilst i  
did "tick it" if you like, i certainly wasn't hoping for it to stick  
around and breed. Like Ian said - what more can we do?
How can you ask Lorne to take responsibility just because he didn't  
personally go and shoot it!
None of us can possibly "take responsibility" for this bird being  
alive or dead. It is up to the relevant government bodies.

Cheers
Dave




On 21/11/2008, at 6:35 PM, Ian May wrote:

> g'Day Simon
>
> Please don't be too concerned.  Try to think of it this way.   If  
> everybody applied the precautionary principle, many of us might not  
> be here to enjoy a new tick.  I think you understand what I mean;  
> that its not really the responsibility of twitchers to destroy house  
> crows in playgrounds.  It would definitely be a bad look roaming  
> playgrounds with shotguns, binoculars and cameras.
>
> Regards
>
> Ian
>
>  wrote:
>
>> Surely the precuationary principle should apply? Are you willing to  
>> take the responsability if this species got out of hand?
>>
>> Regards, Simon Muirhead
>>
>> Quoting Lorne Johnson <>:
>>
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> As I said in my Weekend Australian article, one crow doesn't make
>>> Apocalypse Now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lorne
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 
>>>  On Behalf Of
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 3:52 PM
>>> To: Wendy
>>> Cc: 
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Invasion of Indian crows sparks alert
>>>
>>>
>>> It has always concerned me since the house crow popped up in Sydney
>>> that
>>> many people seem
>>> more concerned about ticking a bird on a list, than the potential
>>> ecologocal disaster this species
>>> may cause. Thats just the impression ive got of this forum though i
>>> may
>>> be incorrect.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, Simon Muirhead
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Wendy <>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now there is a proper challenge for all you twitchers!!
>>>>
>>>> Visiting a park or playground in Sydney, to see one of these
>>>>
>>> birds,
>>>
>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> totally lame in comparison! (apart from risk/excitement for male
>>>>
>>>> persons
>>>>
>>>> possibly getting arrested for hanging around a playgroud with
>>>>
>>> binos
>>>
>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> cameras!!)
>>>>
>>>> wm
>>>>



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