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Eurasian Curlew Location help

To: "L&L Knight" <>
Subject: Eurasian Curlew Location help
From: "Colin R" <>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:10:33 +1000
Hi Laurie

Well picked up - thanks.
Will be interesting to see if you get any responses.

Cheers
Colin

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:58:29 +1000, "L&L Knight"
<> said:
> Actually, I think the original sighting (12.15 pm, 26 October) was at  
> low tide, not high tide.
> 
> If you check
> http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/oceanography/tides/tide_predications.cgi 
>    low tide on the Gold Coast Seaway on 26 October was at 12.20 pm.
> 
> You will also note that the birds were feeding - not something they do  
> while they are roosting at high tide.  I suspect that the sandbar in  
> question may be under water at high tide.  Are there any Gold Coast  
> birdos who can let us know where the high tide wader roosts are around  
> the Broadwater etc?
> 
> Regards, Laurie.
> 
> On 05/11/2008, at 5:45 PM, Colin R wrote:
> 
> > Thanks David - I think there will be a number of people trolling the
> > area come the weekend - high tide is approx 4.30 am on Saturday and  
> > 5.30
> > am on Sunday in that immediate area....
> >
> > Cheers and please all, keep any updates coming - my mobile is 0412 522
> > 962 if anyone has anything worth txting I am more than happy to pass  
> > it
> > on!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Colin
> > Brisbane
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:40:48 +1000, "david taylor"
> > <> said:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Going on the original posting the Deepwater Points Units are at 326
> >> Marine Parade, Labrador on the Gold Coast. The birds were seen on the
> >> open sand flats about 200 metres out using a scope.  Whether they are
> >> regulars there no one knows. Still it must be a chance the birds
> >> frequent the same area. I presume the sand flats are subject to  
> >> tides.
> >> I will attempt contact with Rod for further info.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> David Taylor
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/11/2008, at 6:49 PM, david taylor wrote:
> >>
> >>>         Posted on behalf of Rod Bloss.
> >>>
> >>>         regards
> >>>
> >>>         David Taylor
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 31/10/2008, at 9:56 AM, BRISBOCA wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I recently spent 6 days at my sisters residence at Deepwater Point
> >>>>> Units, Labrador, which overlooks the Broadwater and Southport Bar
> >>>>> on the Gold Coast.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was able to set up my telescope and watch a large number of
> >>>>> waders, seabirds and other waterbirds visiting the sandbank
> >>>>> opposite, which has now got mangroves and grassed areas over it
> >>>>> above the high tide mark.  I observed a Beach Stone-Curlew, over a
> >>>>> hundred Little Terns, two pairs of Pied Oystercatchers with two
> >>>>> chicks each, amongst many other species which I will send to you
> >>>>> in the usual manner in due course.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The purpose of this email is to notify you that at 12.15pm on
> >>>>> Sunday, 26th October, 2008, I spotted three Eurasian Curlews in
> >>>>> amongst a dozen or so Eastern Curlews feeding on the open sand
> >>>>> flats of the island about 200 metres away.  I was flabbergasted
> >>>>> and immediately thought of who I could contact immediately and
> >>>>> nearest to me to come and confirm the sighting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It was the main Indy Race Day that day with F111's and Black Hawk
> >>>>> helicopters flying round and round over or close to the island and
> >>>>> it was making the birds jittery.  I rang Judy Leitch at Runaway
> >>>>> Bay who immediately jumped in their car with her husband, Bruce,
> >>>>> and came straight over.  I had the birds fixed in the scope as
> >>>>> Judy entered the Unit and she took my place.  It wasn't long
> >>>>> before, with the help of our field guides, Judy confirmed the
> >>>>> sighting.  Judy had brought her camera with her which hadn't got
> >>>>> the range to capture the birds and so she placed it over the
> >>>>> eyepiece of the scope lens and took a number of shots of them.
> >>>>> They have not come out perfect as everything that was white on the
> >>>>> birds appeared fawny coloured in the images, but they show where
> >>>>> the identifying features of the Eurasian Curlews are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The birds were first differentiated from Whimbrels which have a
> >>>>> similar white "wedge" on their rumps and white in the tail
> >>>>> feathers.  These birds were larger and had the predominant long
> >>>>> curved bill of Curlews.  They also did not have the black striping
> >>>>> over the crown as the Whimbrels have.  The pure white wedges on
> >>>>> their rumps were quite clearly displayed as the birds moved their
> >>>>> wings slightly and white outer tail feathers could be seen as they
> >>>>> moved around.  Comparisons of bill size were attempted but was
> >>>>> difficult to guage but both Judy and I felt that the bills of the
> >>>>> Eurasians where ever so slightly shorter but retained the long
> >>>>> curve.  This conclusion was made as one of the questioned birds
> >>>>> stood in front of an Eastern Curlew, in more or less the same
> >>>>> stance, where the Eastern's bill almost touched the sand and the
> >>>>> Eurasian's was just short of the sand.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The final piece of the jigsaw was observed by Judy who had the
> >>>>> scope at the time, when the birds took off heading north west
> >>>>> through towards the southern Moreton Bay islands.  Judy is adamant
> >>>>> that she observed the clear white wedge and black and white barred
> >>>>> tail, as the birds turned three-quarter on to change direction. No
> >>>>> clear conclusion could be drawn regarding the size of the chevron
> >>>>> markings over the birds plumage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have observed Eurasian Curlews on many occasions in the meadows
> >>>>> in England before coming to Australia and am familiar with their
> >>>>> appearance and differences to Eastern Curlews.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A more formal record sheet will be submitted, along with a disc of
> >>>>> the images prepared by Judy Leitch, to BOCA, BA, GCCC, for their
> >>>>> findings.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rod Bloss
> >>>>> PRES/SEC
> >>>>> BrisBOCA
> >>>>> Ph/Fax: (07) 3287 4411
> >>>>> Mob: 0422 194 664
> >>>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>> David Taylor
> >>>> Brisbane
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> David Taylor
> >>> Brisbane
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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