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Waders, their bills, on the breeding grounds

To: Jill Dening <>
Subject: Waders, their bills, on the breeding grounds
From: L&L Knight <>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:01:28 +1000
I'll rephrase my answer. Why treat waders as a homogenous group? Is it likely that a tendency that applies to plovers is likely to apply to phalaropes, tattlers, knots, godwits, stints, sandpipers and stilts as well? The degree of divergence between breeding and wintering
grounds will vary widely.

Perhaps you should distinguish between waders with highly specialised bills and waders with generalist bills. You have already made an
implied distinction between migratory waders and non-migratory
waders. I suspect you have also distinguished between short distance migrants [like Double-Banded Plovers] and inter-hemispherical migrants.

LK

On 30/09/2008, at 9:08 PM, Jill Dening wrote:

Yes, I know that, Laurie, but it doesn't help me to answer the
question. In fact that's why the question was asked in the first
place. It may be as Bruce thinks, that the bill length is only
advantageous in the wintering grounds.

A further question might be: I wonder if any of the bill lengths
pose a restriction on the breeding grounds? I could imagine a bill
as long as that of the Eastern Curlew might limit how prey can be
taken, if probing is not the manner of feeding. And I have the
strong impression that food is taken quite differently (from
probing) on the breeding grounds.

Cheers,

Jill
 Jill Dening
Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia

26° 51' 41"S  152° 56' 00"E


L&L Knight wrote:

The breeding grounds vary somewhat between species. Some breed in the tundra or on mountain ridges - environments that are nothing
like the habitats they winter in down here.

Regards, Laurie.

On 30/09/2008, at 7:59 PM, Jill Dening wrote:

Hi All,

I was recently asked a question about waders which totally fazed
me. I was asked if the length of the bill of different species of wader is of any advantage on the breeding grounds.



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