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Re: Painted Finch north of Jerilderie, NSW Riverina,

To: "Steve" <>, "'John Harris'" <>, "'Kurtis Lindsay'" <>, <>
Subject: Re: Painted Finch north of Jerilderie, NSW Riverina,
From: Dean Ingwersen <>
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:50:40 +1000
There was a record earlier this year around Broken Hill/Menindee Lakes area which has recently been accepted. I don't have exact details at the moment, but I have contacted Alan Morris to get the low down on other records which may not be in HANZAB, etc (it does happen!) ;-) That is about 550 kms from the current birds. Perhaps as Chris suggested they have moved to better areas, which happen to be in bad shape at the moment but better than where they've come from (does that make sense?). There was a decent amount of seed at the site for the birds to access.

Having said that, and as my photos show, this pair was more approachable than when I've seen them previously...

Cheers, Dean (still sitting on the fence!)



At 05:02 PM 2/09/2008, Steve wrote:
John...Escapees obviously manage to survive and breed sometimes, otherwise
we wouldn't have feral populations. I once saw a pair of Port Lincoln
Parrots in the Royal National Park in Sydney (presumably escapees). Guess
what they were doing?....checking out nesting holes!
Cheers Steve Murray

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 On Behalf Of John Harris
Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2008 4:53 PM
To: Kurtis Lindsay; 
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Re: Painted Finch north of Jerilderie, NSW
Riverina,

Why would they bother??  That sounds like the Grey-headed Lapwing conspiracy
theory......

Most aviary birds would have no idea how to survive in the wild especially
since water and feed are provided for them in the aviary.  From my 20 years
of avicultural experience, any escapee would only survive a couple of days
in the 'wild', so I have to concur with Grant Brosie's earlier statement.


Yours in all things "green"

Regards

John Harris
President, Victorian Association for Environmental Education (VAEE)
Environmental Education Officer
Donvale Christian College
155 Tindals Rd Donvale 3111
03 9844 2471
0409 090 955


>>> "Kurtis Lindsay" <> 2/09/2008 4:39 pm >>>
Hi all,

Morcombe says that Painted Finches are highly nomadic. What does HANZAB say?
I don't know how likely it is for a pair of nomadic Northern-Australian
finches to fly to NSW and breed, at the same time I don't know how unlikely
it is either so I'm not going to rule it out.
However, this species is sold in pet shops and aviaries throughout NSW, and
aviculturalists don't require a license to keep and breed them. A quick
search of local aviary classifieds show that a breeding pair of Painted
Finches or Emblema's as theyre most commonly known in bird keeping circles
can sell for as little as $25!
(www.petlink.com.au/Classifieds/sale/966620.html)

It seems pretty unlikely that a pair of Painted Finches have both escaped
from a captive situation and have managed to safely make it to suitable
grassland habitat to settle down and breed. So I'm suggesting another
theory, that perhaps someone has released these birds her deliberately?

Kurtis Lindsay




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