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T & T.

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Subject: T & T.
From: Alan McBride <>
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:24:27 +1000
Peter, Don et al

Being very involved with Richard & Sarah on the original sites for T & T for these birds and having visited them both many, many times since it was written I can assure you both of one outstanding bird fact: you dipped! (sorry:-) )

The birds are at both sites, I saw them last time I went, in October last year (2007) and I have visited them often more than once a year for the last 15 years!

Banded Whiteface: Yes, they like burnt areas but (and the Erldunda site bears this out well) if you see an area where it looks like nothing could possibly live there, then that will probably hold Banded Whiteface! This holds true for areas I have seen them on Strzelecki Track too! Admittedly last October at Erldunda we spent a whole day around the site west of the highway walking up to 5 km north south, etc. and didn't see them. The next morning, change of tack, starting across the Stuart Highway on east side, walked in up to 1 km, played tape and watch up to 6 birds come screaming in from the distance to the sole tree on the ridge in front of us! Every time I have visited Erldunda, (10 at least, I have seen them). It's the Quail-thrush I don't see every-time there, probably 7 / 10 !!!

Striated Grasswren: Yes, they are there and I have seen them say every time but one (9/10 say) and that may well have been due to the very hot weather and prolonged drought on one visit. They are on the hill west of the sunset strip parking area and they are in the scrub (not entirely spinifex) area east of the car park. The problem for you now with this eastern side of the site is that Parks have it closed off to stop people walking in to help regeneration. I have seen them from the north east end of the car park, simply by playing the tape and also by walking along the road. Your best bet is very early morning but I have had them through until about 4.00 pm and also in the middle of the day when flying in from ASP. Invariably they would live in and move through the spinifex but are mostly visible on top of the bushes there when taped. The reality is they haven't gone anywhere else.

Roost sites for owls will vary as long as they have wings and large territories!

Guiding available.

Cheers

Alan

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On 28 August 2008, Peter Ewin wrote:

My 2 cents on Using Thomas & Thomas for Banded Whiteface and Striated Grasswren. I may be wrong but I would be surprised if either of the sites mentioned would have been successfully "twitched" for these species in the last 10 years. Both species would appear to be effected by fire history and so any changes since T&T would mean that the habitat now is probably unsuitable. Banded Whiteface would appear to prefer areas that have been burnt in the last few years, so I would be spending time looking in this sort of habitat (should be obvious from the habitat condition) rather than going to any specific site. I would also suggest enough time poking around would eventually get on to them (last time I was at Uluru I saw driving between the survey sites that I was helping with). The Striated Grasswren is a very different species, probably preferring long unburnt Spinifex, which is getting scarcer in and around Uluru. I have been there twice and looked around the carparks on both occassions with no luck (and as far as I recall it had been burnt). I also have looked around behind the airport which is where birds apparently have been recorded in the past. I talked to some of the staff (I was helping a friend with his PhD so we got into some of the less accessible parts of the the park) and they had very few records or even potential sites where this species had been recorded. We looked in some interesting habitat east of Uluru off the Curtin Springs road and saw potential footprints but saw no birds (and got no response from call playback). As a conclusion I would suggest you would be very lucky to find Grasswrens in Uluru and that the T&T is probably a bit of a dead end (if you can stop in some big spinifex then you might have a chance). As I say I may be completely wrong on these theories (any comments appreciated) but as good as T&T is for many species still (and I have been to quite a few of their sites), you can get information on other species that is much more up to date from Birding-Aus (the roost sites for some of the owls would be another example).
Cheers,
Pete




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