I find it hard to accept your view that it is the fault of the major bird
groups for not encouraging publication - after all the thread started with a
complaint (indirect) from the editor of the AFO which happens to be
published by BOCA which is by any definition a major bird group! And BA of
course have the Emu which performs a similar role, although it is perhaps
less oriented to "amateur" observations.
2008/5/21 Murray Lord <>:
> Considering Stephen Debus' comments about twitching out of context obscures
> the very valid point he was trying to make. Aside from his unfortunate use
> of "malaise" as opposed to something less judgmental, my immediate reaction
> was that what he was saying was fairly self evidently true. I am an example
> of this. I used to co-ordinate wader counts for a state and write up all
> the results and do things like that. These days with less time on my hands,
> if I do have time for birding I am more likely to spend it going somewhere
> overseas looking for new birds. Hence I publish less than I used to - I
> contribute less to ornithology.
>
> It's a sad reflection on us birders as a whole that while there are more
> and more of us spending time looking at birds there is less and less of
> value being published by amateurs. That was Stephen's point. Personally I
> think one factor he overlooks is the attitude that comes through from major
> bird groups that projects have to have a conservation value to be
> worthwhile. The idea of knowledge about birds for knowledge's sake gets
> ignored and that doesn't do much to encourage people to publish their
> observations. Though I accept the need to qualify for government funding
> makes the conservation centred approach necessary.
>
> Here ends the rant about the rant.
>
> Murray Lord
> Sydney
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