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RE: Bush Stone Curlew in Five Dock

To: "'praccus'" <>, <>
Subject: RE: Bush Stone Curlew in Five Dock
From: "Cliff & Dianne Dent" <>
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:28:26 +1100
Perhaps birders should have taken a bit more responsibility with the BSC.
It should not have been left to fend for itself. It could have been
protected or moved to a safer environment.
As for educating dog owners, it would be quicker to train monkeys!

Cliff Dent
Terrigal, NSW



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Subject: Re: birding-aus Digest, Vol 23, Issue 27


I believe it is nothing less than our responsibility as birdlovers
and ecologically minded individuals,
unless we wish to merely be voyeurs. Dogs have their place in streets
and parks, sure, likewise endangered
species wherever they land, regardless if possible. A question of
sensibilites and of course, the human question,
as that is what domestic dogs are all about, us.

Do your friends a favour an educate a dog owner about everything you
know, or remind any stray dog walker
in a national park that the ranger is just down the track 5 mins in
front or behind them.... works a treat!

ta,
   ben currie

> From: 
> Date: 15 February 2008 11:56:28 PM
> To: "birdingaus" <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Bush stone curlew in Five Dock
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Tragic story, hardly atypical.  As anyone with half an eye can attest,
> this happens every ten minutes and more across the continent (and much
> further afield of course).  Sadly most twitchers are not there to
> witness
> such events.
>
> Council environment officers being in a position to actually police
> the
> actions of dog owners is probably a fantasy that belongs deep in
> the past,
> if there ever was a time when such an idea was a possibility.
>
> Dogs and their owners OWN the continent effectively: in the Hunter
> region,
> for example, they occupy every single space, from bushland to
> parkland,
> beaches to national parks and of course their own little “private”
> off-leash areas.  Nothing is "policed" and probably never was: yet
> we have
> people like Adrian Franklin and many more academics asserting that the
> "eco-nationalists" are waging a war that might best be described as
> "species-cleansing" based on their ecologicaly fascistic fantasies.
>
> Funny old world.
>
> cheers
>
> Craig
> Hunter region
>
>
>> Alistair et al
>>
>> Perhaps in situations like this we should be more "proactive" (I
>> hate that
>> word).  We could have alerted Council's environment officer when
>> the bird
>> turned up and alerted him/her to the danger of dog attack.  Then a
>> ranger
>> may have been posted to police dogs off leashes (against the law
>> except in
>> some areas).  Wise in hindsight but a lesson for the future maybe.
>> Apologies in advance to anyone who may have taken such action.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>



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