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2. Re: News story calling for cull or corellas

To: "Gregory Little" <>
Subject: 2. Re: News story calling for cull or corellas
From: "Natalia Atkins" <>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:02:59 +1000
Greg,

Dogs and cats are introduced species. The native wild-life has little, if
any, natural adaption to such predators, and this is why owners are asked to
be sensitive.

On Jan 31, 2008 1:53 PM, Gregory Little <> wrote:

> Gooday birders
>
> Am going to stick my neck out here. How can we tell non-birding people
> on the one hand to be careful and control their dogs around beach birds
> and then tell potentially the same people to conserve a widespread and
> common bird that is damaging property. I think we simply have to be
> pragmatic and say get the permits and cull the Corellas. Otherwise,
> these people see and think that we want to conserve everything
> regardless, and consequently we risk saving nothing but the common
> birds.
>
> Greg Little
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] 2. Re: News story calling for cull or corellas
>
> Good ideas Peter; I  would not support the culling of Corellas either.
> Surely there are enough environmental studies graduates out there who ,
> if
> employed, could formulate a plan for population managment of species
> such as
> Ibis and Corellas ? Such a study would most certainly investigate why
> these
> things happen, and how they might be managed in the long term.
>
> We could cull the sports people? Then there would nothing to complain
> about.
>
>
>
> Message: 2Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:48:40 +1000
>
> > From: peter crow <>
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] RE:News story calling for cull or corellas
> > To: "Bob Green" <>
> > Cc: Birding Aus <>
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> >
> > Hello Bob,
> >
> > While I can express some sympathy for the sporting groups of Mt
> > Gambier I also wish to lay the blame for the problem firmly on those
> > same groups.
> >
> > They are the ones providing such wonderful habitat (well watered
> > grassy lawns with grubs and other foods for the birds. Without those
> > sources the birds probably would not have increased in numbers to the
> > point where they are now considered pests.
> >
> > Culling them is a very short term and temporary solution. A large
> > cull now will solve the problem until they again increase in numbers
> > and the locals will want to cull again.
> >
> > There is probably no easy solution but a little creative thinking
> > outside the range of shotguns may be better than culling.
> >
> > Good luck but remember people caused this problem.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On 30/01/2008, at 5:22 PM, Bob Green wrote:
> >
> > > As I come from Mount Gambier maybe I could add something to this
> > > topic.
> > >
> > > For a number of years the corella problem has been getting
> > > gradually worse here, affected sporting groups in summary include
> > >
> > > Cricket - matches cancelled due to turf being decimated
> > > Croquet - financial hardships placed on small clubs
> > > Hockey - approx $10,000 damage to a newly replaced artificial turf
> > > when the bird tore the seams apart
> > > Golf - fairway and greens damaged
> > >
> > > Nearly all sporting groups have been affected in some small way
> > >
> > > A number of groups have had permits to shoot small numbers of birds
> > > mostly as a scaring tactic, fright shots as well as gas guns have
> > > been used but small community groups cannot afford to have someone
> > > sit and watch over their complex 24-7.
> > >
> > > It has reached the point where the fright shots etc are generating
> > > more complaints than the birds from the general community but
> > > sporting groups are those most affected, and not just financially.
> > >
> > > I am not saying we need to have a cull but something definitely
> > > needs to be done, but it is a difficult problem to manage, at the
> > > moment one group achieves success in getting rid of the birds, only
> > > for it to become someone else's problem.
> > >
> > > Bob Green
> > > www.birding-aus.org
> > > birding-aus.blogspot.com
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