To: "Dave Torr" <>, "L&L Knight" <>
Subject: ROSELLA TAXONOMY - New Field Guides
From: "John Harris" <>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:51:08 +1100
Excel does wonders!!!  A few key strokes and it is all

After receiving Pizzey and Knight (Menkhorst Ed) for Christmas, I am
wondering what will be the first guide out with the new taxonomy..... 
the above mentioned made a few claims which were later not
substantiated/accepted such as Paperbark Flycatcher......

Also who will be the first to publish a FG to match the whole of C&B
2008, for offshore territories as well????

It just goes to show that taxonomic research and "accepted lists" are
often out of date before publication.  From my knowledge, the Fairy
Pitta seen in WA is not on either the main or supplementary lists.  This
has happened with other classes of vertebrates as well eg Reptiles and

Yours in all things "green"


John Harris
President, Victorian Association for Environmental Education (VAEE)
Environmental Education Officer
Donvale Christian College
155 Tindals Rd Donvale 3111
03 9844 2471
0409 090 955

>>> "Dave Torr" <> 23/01/2008 7:26 am >>>
True - I think they all do and in the case of Rosellas that would be
easy - although whether the software could do it for you or just tell
that you have a problem and you need to fix it is debatable. The real
problem is splits where the ranges overlap - not sure if this is ever a
problem though?

On 23/01/2008, L&L Knight <> wrote:
> Well, the geographically based splits would be easier to resolve if
> the systems recognise location.
> On 23/01/2008, at 6:09 AM, Dave Torr wrote:
> > I wonder when the major birding software systems will be updated
> > the new
> > C&B - and how they cope with lumps (which are easy to handle) and
> > splits
> > (which are difficult unless the software allowed for you to record
> > subspecies, which none of the ones I have looked at did).
> >
> > On 22/01/2008, Andrew Wood <> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> In answer to Steve's question, in the new C&B Northern, Western
> >> Eastern Rosella remain separate. Crimson Rosella, Yellow Rosella
> >> Adelaide Rosella remain together. Platycercus adscitus is indeed
> >> Pale-headed
> >> Rosella. No change to Rosellas at all!
> >>
> >> Andrew Wood
> >>

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