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New Christidis & Boles

To: "Stephen Ambrose" <>, <>
Subject: New Christidis & Boles
From: "Peter Shute" <>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:39:09 +1100
With all these changes I'm beginning to understand why people gripe so
much about them - this is my first round of changes, I assume many of
you have seen many of them.

Can we expect future field guides to modify the order to match these
changes?  If so, and assuming that DNA studies will result in more
changes than ever before, would it be a silly idea to suggest that
someone comes up with a separate stable taxonomy purely for
identification purposes?  One where birds that look or act the same are
left together despite the fact that we know they're really from
different families?

It would only be used for the ordering of species in field guides,
checklists, etc.

We have scientific and common names, why can't we have scientific and
common taxonomies?

Peter Shute

 wrote on :

> Not to mention the placement of the fantails & willie wagtail
> (rhipidurids) between the artamids (woodswallows,
> butcherbirds & currawongs) and the corvids (crows & ravens),
> and the monarchs/flycatchers (monarchids) and Australian
> robins (petroicids) after the corvids, corcoracids (chough &
> apostlebird) and paradisaeids (riflebirds).
>
> Steve, I ordered my copy from CSIRO Publishing.
>
> Regards,
> Stephen
>
> Dr Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of
> Stuart, Alan AD
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2008 4:19 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] New Christidis & Boles
>
>
> My copy of the new C&B arrived yesterday too.  What a shake
> up to the taxonomic list!  I spent an absorbing couple of
> hours last night working out where everything had moved to.
> Tropicbirds are now listed immediately after the ducks,
> pigeons appear before albatrosses, and many other movements.
> One change that particularly caught my eye was that the chats
> now appear in the list between wattlebirds and several
> species of honeyeaters.
>
> Alan Stuart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of
> Stephen Ambrose
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2008 2:13 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Helmeted Guineafowl
>
> Steve,
>
> My copy of Christidis & Boles (2008) arrived in the mail
> yesterday. The Helmeted Guineafowl is included in their main
> list, based on evidence that this species has persisted and
> bred at several locations in northern Qld.
>
> Stephen
>
> Dr Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
>
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