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trying correct common names

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Subject: trying correct common names
From: "Cas and LISA Liber (& family)" <>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:09:43 +1000
Phillip
It is an OK book. I am enjoying it but not as much as other entertaining factual books I have read and I am not sure why really.
 
I don't but that about the names - American Robin being a case in point. Also Baltimore Oriole and all the american warblers. Of course many similar looking avians were going to be more closely related to their old world counterparts by virtue of geography. Oz is full of odd new names too (cf Rosella, Currawong, Kookaburra, Budgie, Emu, etc.).............as many as the US I wager
Cas
 
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From: [On Behalf Of Philip Veerman
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2005 4:01 PM
To: Cas and LISA Liber (& family); Birding Aus
Subject: [BIRDING-AUS] trying correct common names

Cas,
 
That is a good question. They should do so. I had correspondence with an American birdo about six months ago, on this very subject. This person explained to me that the difference is that whilst the early settlers to Australia tried to give the new animals even if they were not remotely related, names as close as possible to those back home in England, in contrast, the early settlers to America tried to give the new animals names as far as possible from those back home in England. So we have two opposite sets of biases, that both produce some odd problems. It is hardly surprising when you look at American spelling, as in the can't spell "cheque", can't say "aluminium" put dates back to front, etc. Therefore Americans call Buteo Buzzards "hawks" (which is sort of correct in that buzzards are a sub set of hawks) but they call vultures "buzzards" which is really weird, even though the new world vultures are quite likely not at all close to old world vultures and maybe should not be in the order Falconiformes at all.
 
Is 'Red-Tails In Love' a good book? I have often seen that book in book shops and wonder why do we get that book in Australia. Seems very obscure to me.
 
 
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