Pied Butcherbird in Central NSW

To: Edwin Vella <>
Subject: Pied Butcherbird in Central NSW
From: Peter Woodall <>
Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:03:17 +1000
In Queensland (mainly in the south-east) gardens, both Grey and Pied
Butcherbirds are common, both being recorded from 64% of gardens
in a 1999/2000 survey.  Twenty years earlier the Grey Butcherbird was
on 50% and the Pied on 63%.

The question of Striped Honeyeaters is interesting. They have made
no great inroads into (south-east) Queensland gardens.
From 1971-74 they had a marked increase at Wellington Point, south of
Brisbane but then declined, and in the Brisbane Valley they have had a
significant increase in numbers over the past 24 years.  Perhaps they
are the next species ready to invade out gardens?


At 09:30 PM 31/03/2005 +1000, you wrote:
I definitely would echo Graham's comments about why Pied Butcherbirds
don't occur in Sydney. Any possible explanations why Pied Butcherbirds
have not established themselves in Sydney? I have seen them (individuals
to breeding family parties) several times at various places as close to
Sydney as the Tuggerah/Wyong area in the Central Coast where they are
resident(a mere 80 km north of Sydney CBD or c60 km from the edge of the
Sydney region). They also occur directly west and over the Blue

Another bird that fits very much this case is the Striped Honeyeater. It
has a very similar distribution in NSW to the Pied Butcherbird but again
appears not yet to have establish a permanent population within the
Sydney region. The Striped Honeyeater is not uncommon in various parts
of the Central Coast, especially where there is Casuarinas and may be
increasing there) and is even more common in the Hunter and further
north and over the Divide in NSW.

However, I recall seeing my first Striped Honeyeater at Castlereagh NR
(well within the Sydney region) and there are a number of other past and
fairly recent reports of this species in other parts of Sydney.


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G'day Birders,
I have often wondered why Pied Butcherbirds appear to be so common
around Newcastle, yet don't seem to be in the sydney area.

However they do turn up from tome to time. I saw one in Lapstone* in the
mid '90s (can't remember exactly when). Fortunately it turned up at my
parents house, so there was another birdo (Dick Turner) there to marvel
at this strange sighting.

Graham Turner

*Lapstone is in the lower blue mountians, about 60 km west of Sydney.

> From: "alan morris"
> Hi Birders,
>> As there would seem to be plenty of suitable habitat for Pied
Butcherbirds on the Cumberland Plains, west of Sydney, particularly in
the open space reserves, domestic stock grazing areas, sports fields etc
and golf courses, it is hard to understand why they have not settled
there whereas Choughs and Apostlebirds have been able to maintain a
presence! The only two records I know for Sydney Region have been for
Heathcote and Ashbury, hardly the open space areas one would expect to
find Pied Butcherbirds!
> Alan Morris

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