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Painted Snipe at Banyule - Never Celia?

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Subject: Painted Snipe at Banyule - Never Celia?
From: "Alan Leishman" <>
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:45:39 +1100
John,

A Juvenile (Juvenal) bird plumage occurs after the pullis  (nestling) stage, it 
is a bird in  its first plumage of true feathers. eg the Eastern Yellow Robin 
leaves the nest in a mottled reddish/brown plumage and goes into its immature 
plumage when it commences its first body moult. In general terms it is 
"immature" until it attains sexual maturity, so that a bird can appear to be in 
its adult plumage while still "immature".

Regards,



Alan Leishman,
Plant Sciences,
Royal Botanic Gardens,
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>>> John Gamblin <> 11/02/01 01:18pm >>>
G'day Celia,

Never Never Ever apologise for you see what YOU see.
Many thanks for sharing your magic with us. It was
good to read the follow up's.

What's the difference between an immature bird and a
juvenile? only the silly olde human time clock system.
It's not their time system but our human one.

And Michael himself often forgets his birthright and
places such as Bucklers Hard :-]

Kind Regards,
John

P.S.
Now did I feed beak two or one last :^D>>>>>> I'll
grab forty winks and dream of this bucket being full
grown.

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Celia & Russell Browne <> wrote:

I guess I should publicly answer Michael's message of
yesterday. Last night I replied to him privately.
Apologies if people were misled by my posting of 25th
October.

You will understand that, when I first saw the PS on
the 25th I was enormously excited. This was a new bird
for me & I had only Pizzey with me. I was also alone.
Looking at the book, it didn't appear at all like the
female pictured - so I assumed it was a male! I was
wrong of course. The experts then flocked to Banyule &
now many, many excellent birders have since seen &
confirmed that it is an immature FEMALE Painted Snipe.

Sorry for any confusion caused.

Celia  :-(

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