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Re: crows and koels

To: "Robert Inglis" <>, "birding-aus" <>
Subject: Re: crows and koels
From: Alexandra Appleman <>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:12:42 +1000
At 06:59 AM 8/19/00 -0700, Robert Inglis wrote:
>   Hello all,   On 17/8/2000 I posted a list of birds I recorded recently
>at Cowans Ponds,  Grafton, NSW.   One bird on that list, Torresian Crow,
>has been queried.   I think the query is quite reasonable and would like to
>give some more  details. Also, I would be interested in other people's
>records of corvids at this  site.   The suggestion is that I was really
>looking at Australian Raven.   My identification was based on my perception
>of the call and the appearance  of the bird.   The call seemed to me to be
>somewhat 'different' to any of the many calls  that the Torresian Crows in
>my backyard at Woody Point, SEQ, make. I felt it had more of the 'raven'
>quality to it; it seemed more drawn  out. 

Re: crows / ravens

Having not visited Cowans Ponds I cannot comment on the bird species there.
I can tell you that the Torresian Crows (1 or 2 birds) which visit the
garden each year at this time of the year have various calls, some of which
have me thinking 'raven'. Townsville has both TC's and AR's so I go by the
lack of obvious hackles, and I expect different sub-species would have
slightly different calls.

Re: koels

On a recent stopover in Singapore I saw the Asian [Common] Koel at the
Botanic gardens and at the Golf Course. The call was very like that of the
Australian Koel  so I too would be interested in whether the two species
are lumped or split, and on what basis.

Cheers

Alex Appleman
Townsville
S19*19' E146*45'

     


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 field guides, I would like to know =
which is the best Australian bird field guide for sea birds?
Or should I leave them all at home and rely on Harrison's "Seabirds. An =
identification Guide"?

Incidentally, please don't swamp me with suggestions for preventing =
sea-sickness.

The main thing is to enjoy it.

Bob Inglis
Woody point SEQld,
27 deg 15min 18 sec S; 153 deg 5 min 38 sec E
E-mail: 
WWW: http://www.powerup.com.au/~inglisrc


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<DIV>Hello Birding-Ausers,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Perhaps the ideal Australian bird field guide would:</DIV>
<DIV>- have the outside dimensions of The Slater Field Guide to =
Australian
Birds;</DIV>
<DIV>- be constructed on the same principal as Dr Who's time travel =
machine,
bigger on the inside than the outside;</DIV>
<DIV>- be illustrated by William T Cooper (drooool...... but who could =
afford
it?);</DIV>
<DIV>- have the text written by Graham Pizzey;</DIV>
<DIV>- be sold with tinted glasses of personal choice so that the =
colours would
appear 'correct' for each user;</DIV>
<DIV>- be sold with a powerful magnifying glass for viewing the maps =
thus
allowing accurate rendition of distribution boundaries.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I&nbsp;wonder who will be the first person to publish a field guide =
with
hologram illustrations?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Seriously though, folks,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Being a chronic sufferer of 'the fear of floating', I have never =
taken a
great deal of notice of the sea-birds section of the various Australian =
bird
field guides.</DIV>
<DIV>I have only ever been on three pelagic trips, if you include a boat =
trip
around Lord Howe Island.</DIV>
<DIV>4 if you call travelling to Michaelmas Cay on a big catamaran a =
boat
trip?</DIV>
<DIV>So my grand total of sea birds is 19, not counting gulls and =
terns.</DIV>
<DIV>And some of those were seen from the land any way.</DIV>
<DIV>But now that easily accessible (physically and economically) birds =
to add
to my list are becoming hard to find, I may have to face my second =
greatest fear
and try some more 'boat' trips.</DIV>
<DIV>That is if I really want to join that illustrious and dedicated =
(should
that be committed?) group known as the 600 Club.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In view of the recent discussion on field guides, I would like to =
know
which is the best Australian bird field guide for sea birds?</DIV>
<DIV>Or should I leave them all at home and rely on Harrison's =
"Seabirds. An
identification Guide"?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Incidentally, please don't swamp me with suggestions for preventing =

sea-sickness.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The main thing is to enjoy it.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bob Inglis<BR>Woody point SEQld,<BR>27 deg 15min 18 sec S; 153 deg =
5 min 38
sec E<BR>E-mail: <A
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nglisrc</A></DIV>
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