Re: birding-aus Re: outback travel

To: "David Geering"<>
Subject: Re: birding-aus Re: outback travel
From: Peter Woodall <>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:18:07 +1000
At 09:00 20/09/1999 +1000, you wrote:
>Good on you Carol (and her supporters).
>I couldn't believe that people, without knowing you, would be so quick to
>suggest that you were in mortal danger the moment you left the bitumen and
>question your wisdom for doing so.
>The points about safely are well made but how about a little bit of thought
>concerning the ability of individuals to exercise a bit of common sense.
>It would appear that because Carol did the trip in a 2WD it was assumed
>that she was under prepared   Not everyone can afford a 4WD or consider
>such a vehicle necessary for what they want to do.  Will the next
>suggestion be that we shouldn't be looking at birds unless we have a pair
>of Leica's?  (Here comes the hate mail!)
>One of the things that really bugs me about birding-aus is just how quick
>some people are to criticise others unmercifully and unjustifiably.  I
>thought that this was behaviour was highlighted some months ago, certainly
>it dropped off dramatically after that.
>If you have a point to make, please make it without personal attacks on
>individuals.  If you want to get more personal don't send it to the list.
>David Geering
I'd just like to add my support to David's views supporting Carol.

I think much more depends on the driver than the vehicle (and the same applies
to PC's!!) in terms of knowledge, ability and preparation.
I have driven an old 6-volt VW beetle in many parts of Zimbabwe that were
4WD only, and got through without drama., and similarly in Kinkuna NP,
central Qld
I lost 4WD on my Hilux through failure of the locking hubs but still got through
with careful driving.

Some of us, at least, still appreciate the satisfaction of overcoming some
to get to your destination and in my book this doesn't mean that you are
A friend of mine has just written this of Mana Pools NP on the Zambesi R. in

"Camping on the edge of the river in unspoilt Africa. Mana is still a very
difficult place to get to...and i hope they keep it that way."


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