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Re: birding-aus Defence calls in cavity nesting birds

To: Philip A Veerman <>
Subject: Re: birding-aus Defence calls in cavity nesting birds
From: James Davis <>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:19:57 +1000 (EST)
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Philip:

The possibility of snake predation could be why the chicks produce a low
sounding growl...this assumes that most snakes can feel vibrations through
their jaw bones or ...I can't recall where I learned snakes pick up
low-ampitude vibrations.  Just a thought.

Cheers, Jim 

Dr. Wm. James Davis, Editor
Interpretive Birding Bulletin


On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Philip A Veerman wrote:

> birding-aus
> 
> Is it not true that the African Harrier Hawk (Gymnogenys typicus) is a
> specialist hunter of things in cavities? I'm sure you have thought of that
> one yet you say "there appear to be few natural enemies while the chicks are
> still in the cavity". What about snakes but that defence would not work as
> (as far as I know) snakes are deaf.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Thompson <>
> To:  <>
> Date: Tuesday, 16 February 1999 23:56
> Subject: birding-aus (Fwd) Defence calls in cavity nesting birds
> 
> 
> birding-aus
> 
> ------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
> Date sent:      Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:52:02 +0200
> From:           "Craig Symes" <>
> To:             
> Subject:        Defence calls in cavity nesting birds
> 
> Information Wanted: Cavity Nesting Birds and Defense Vocalisation
> Calls.
> 
> While attending the I.O.C. in July 1998 I in Durban,  I had the chance
> to discuss and share various ideas concerning my own and other
> researchers studies worldwide
> 
> The Cape Parrot is a secondary cavity nester in the Afromontane
> forests of south-eastern South Africa. Juveniles and adults make a
> characteristic growling sound if threatened in their nest cavity, yet
> there appear to be few natural enemies while the chicks are still in
> the cavity. The cavity is usually quite deep and inaccessible from the
> ground in an upright forest canopy or canopy emergent tree.
> 
> This form of vocalisation made by any bird species in the nest would
> nonethelesss serve as an effective defensive mechanism for a cavity
> nesting species. A mammal like growling sound emanating from a dark
> cavity would surely raise suspicions to the actual occupant of the
> hole to any intruder/predator. My question is, does it occur in other
> cavity nesters or species constructing an enclosed nest? The
> threatening defensive vocalisations of this species has driven my
> interest in investigating the phenomenon in birds worldwide and
> investigating and reviewing where such defensive mechanisms may be
> utilised. I did post a similar request a while back on SABirdnet and
> had a few responses. Thank you to those who did respond.
> 
> I am unaware of any publications directly confronting this issue and
> would appreciate views and input on various species that different
> subscribers may have studied or encountered.
> 
> Please bear in mind the following points when replying:
> 1. Species (Specific as possible)
> 2. Distribution of species (e.g. Cape Parrot Poicephalus robustus
> robustus -  Afromontane forests of south-eastern South Africa)
> 3. Type of defensive call of adult and/or nestling and form of threat
> (e.g. mammal like growl when cavity hole approached, snake like hiss,
> bee like buzz/hum etc.)
> 4. Potential/known nestling predators
> 5. Co-operative breeder/Polygynous/Polyandrous/Monogamous/Other
> 6. Type of nester: Primary cavity nester (constructs own cavity),
> Secondary cavity nester (uses natural cavity or old cavity of primary
> cavity nester, or, Constructs enclosed nest (e.g. Ploceus spp.)
> 7. Does the species in question supply nest material to the cavity and
> what type of material.
> 8. Obligate/facultative cavity nester?
> 9. Further remarks.
> 
> I hope to accumulate data from various sources in investigating this
> issue. Any input will be duly acknowledged should any publications
> result.
> 
> If there is anyone on SABirdnet who is connected to any other
> "chatgroups", or has any contacts who may be able to help, please
> forward this message to them.
> 
> I look forward to a flood of responses.
> 
> Yours sincerely
> Craig Symes
> 
> *************************************************
> Craig Symes
> Research Centre for African Parrot Conservation
> Dept. of Zoology and Entomology
> University of Natal
> P/Bag X01
> Scottsville 3209
> South Africa
> 
> Phone: (0331) 260-5104/03/27
> Fax: (0331) 260-5105
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