Re: Help with Southern African Species

To: Gil Langfield <>
Subject: Re: Help with Southern African Species
From: (chris dahlberg)
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:59:51 +1000 (EST)
Hi Gil
what a fantastic place to go for a holiday, Denise and I were there less
than a year ago. I have the Newmans Green Edition and hopefully some answers
for you:
1. Black Kite, Milvus migrans migrans
   Yellowbilled Kite, M. aegyptius
2. Forest Buzzard, Buteo trizonatus
   Steppe Buzzard, B. buteo vulpinus
3. Cape Sparrow, Passer melanurus, the only reference I could find for
mossie is that it is an Africaans word for sparrow.
We plan to go back there in the not to distant future. I was very impressed
with the value of our dollar and the overall value for money a holiday in
South Africa can be. Not to mention the birds and mammals.
Chris Dahlberg

I have just returned from a family holiday in Southern Africa (mostly South
>Africa) where I saw just over 300 species of birds.  It was good birding
>(and animalling) and I found the South Africans to be very friendly and
>helpful people.
>I used Sinclair's "Birds of Southern Africa", First (?) Edition, 1993,
>which was the only guide in Andrew Isles' bookshop at the time.  I resisted
>the temptation to buy the Newman's Green Edition while in SA in order to
>save weight.  I am now trying to enter my sightings into BirdBase for
>Windows data base and am having the usual troubles since Sinclair uses
>Sibley and Ahlquist/Monroe (1990) while BirdBase uses Clements'
>classification.  I would much appreciate some help on the following
>problems from either our South African members or others with SA knowledge.
>Black Kite/Yellow-billed Kite:  HANZAB Volume 2 suggests to me that the
>Yellow-billed Kite is M. migrans parasitus, a subspecies of the Black Kite.
> Is this the case?
>Forest/Steppe/Common Buzzard:  Sinclair has a Forest Buzzard, Buteo
>tachardus, and a Steppe Buzzard, B. buteo which must be the local
>subspecies of the Common Buzzard.  Is the Forest Buzzard a full species?
>Mossie/Cape Sparrow:  BirdBase calls Passer melanurus the Mossie and P.
>diffusus the Cape Sparrow.  Sinclair has P. melanurus as the Cape Sparrow
>and no P. diffusus.  What is the correct common name?
>Gil Langfield
>Melbourne, Australia

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