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Re[2]: DESEX CAT SUPPORTERS

To: "" <>, "Hoschke; Andrew AH" <>
Subject: Re[2]: DESEX CAT SUPPORTERS
From: (David Torr)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:21:38 +1100
     Or even better keep your own chooks - I have three in my modest 
     suburban backyard (one ex-battery - a sorry sight when we got her, but 
     she recovered quickly). They co-exist well with our dogs, fertilise 
     the garden, weed it (no use planting seeds!) and occasionally we get 
     an egg  (if the dogs don't find it first!)


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Subject: RE: DESEX CAT SUPPORTERS
Author:  "Hoschke; Andrew AH" <> at pau-smtp
Date:    01/10/97 11:26


Glen,
While you may agree with me, I don't think you get the point of what I'm 
saying. We must ALL take responsibility for our actions. Cat owners 
should desex and enclose their animals, further to that each of us 
should look at how our actions are affecting the world. Hiding behind 
felinephobia is an easy way to wash your hands of all responsibility.
     
As for caging birds, in my view, the worst crime people are committing 
against animals, is battery farming. The birds are kept in cages so 
small they cannot stand or spread their wings, permanently sitting on 
wire deforms their feet, which often have to be broken to remove their 
carcass from the cage, their bones are so weak from their "life" style 
that 80% of them break a bone sometime in their life, when they cant 
even move. Please buy free range eggs and stop supporting this torture. 
Andrew
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From: Glen Ingram
To: 'Birding-aus'
Subject: DESEX CAT SUPPORTERS
Date: Monday, 29 September 1997 2:27PM
     
I completely agree with Andrew. That is why I am pushing for desexing 
cat lovers and not cruelty to the much beset pussy itself.
     
Just think, if we can get rid of this catophilic gene from the human 
population, we will decrease the commonness of cats and we will stop 
their spread. At the same time no harm will come to cats: they will just 
dwindle because of disinterest.
     
Yes, we do have to face the fact that the human supporters of cats are 
the cause of the spread of these animals. However, while I agree with 
Andrew in substance, I think he is being disingenuous in pointing the 
finger at ALL humans for the cat.
     
There is hardly any justice in blaming people who were not involved in 
their spread in the past, nor is their any justice in blaming those 
disinterested in them now, and into the future. Such a broad brush of 
accusation is hardly caring and very insensitive.
     
ONLY cat lovers should be blamed. And, Andrew, you should have the 
emotional, ideological and intellectual courage to hand in your 
secondary sexual characteristics if you want to keep your pussy.
     
I for one would be amongst the first to applaud you.
     
     
Glen Ingram
Brisbane, Australia

     
"Cats don't have owners, only people who stock the refrigerator for 
them."
     

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