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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: TS-7200 a point about this board
From: "entity2k10" <>
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 08:55:33 -0000
Hi Bill, Don,
thank you very much for your support and suggest, I've also got this morning a 
mail from the TS support regarding the EOL of the Cirrus EP9302 processor and 
they said that this will be at least for another 5 to 10 years.

Well, I think to really start in this new way, I know that a lot of poeple in 
this group and out of there are in developing with these boards then I hope to 
catch some help and also make by myself some useful tutorial for newbie when 
I've catch the basic knowledge.
Thanks for now.
Fabio


--- In  Don Tucker <> wrote:
>
> I recently started a development project using a TS-7260 and some of 
> TS's expansion boards. I was relatively new to Linux (user-level 
> proficiency, no developer/network/admin-level proficiency), and my 
> previous experience with embedded systems was with XScale devices and 
> WinCE. I ended up way underestimating the time it would take to develop 
> our system. My experience has been that it is often difficult to find 
> out how to do exactly what you want to do, but the answer is usually out 
> there, either on this discussion group, or in some sample code on TS's 
> ftp site, or buried in some manual you have yet to peruse. TS's tech 
> support is often helpful, but it can take a day to get a response, and 
> going back and forth toward a solution can take a few days. I did not 
> use embedded Linux, but rather Debian on an SD card. Once you find out 
> how to create a Debian image and boot to it, you may then find out that 
> the kernel that you have in your image does not support some feature you 
> want to use (like iptables or iproute, for instance). Then, you will 
> have to become familiar with how to configure and rebuild your kernel 
> and have it be compatible with the user space. It's not that difficult, 
> but there is a not exactly newbie-friendly learning curve. I agree with 
> Bill that if your system allows, going with one of TS's more recent 
> releases may be preferable.
> 
> Don
> On 3/15/2011 12:55 PM, William C. Landolina wrote:
> >
> > As somebody who is shipping a TS-7200 based product and was about to 
> > design a from scratch EP9304 system (a successor to the EP9302) when 
> > Cirrus stopped product development on this line I'm not too concerned 
> > about availability. I talked to Cirrus at the time and again a couple 
> > of years later and their answer was that they are going to manufacture 
> > these chips for as long as they have customers to buy them. Cirrus is 
> > not providing support for the chip today but it is well understood and 
> > what warts it has are well documented.
> >
> > That said, for a new project TS has other boards that are comparably 
> > priced, have more bang for the buck, and have better main-line kernel 
> > support for Linux. Your out-of-the-box experience will likely be 
> > better with a newer TS product. Particularly support for 2.6 kernels 
> > is sketchy - TS doesn't support 2.6 on the TS-7200 in any meaningful 
> > way and do-it-yourself 2.6 kernels based on patch sets floating around 
> > the web can be problematic if you are not ready to dive head first 
> > into kernel configurations and debugging. [There are excellent patch 
> > sets out there but it is not a place I'd recommend starting out on the 
> > path from XP to Linux if you are more focused on getting your 
> > application working than kernel hacking.]
> >
> > You will experience serious culture shock if you switch from something 
> > like Microsoft Visual Studio to the Eclipse based Linux development 
> > environments. They both get the job done but the user interface 
> > philosophies are very different. Most everything you are used to in 
> > the Windows development world has an equivalent on Linux but it will 
> > take you a while to learn where everything is. Maybe like moving from 
> > New York to Paris.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Bill.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:  <ts-7000%40yahoogroups.com> 
> >  <ts-7000%40yahoogroups.com>] On 
> > Behalf Of entity2k10
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:58 AM
> > To:  <ts-7000%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [ts-7000] TS-7200 a point about this board
> >
> > Dear All,
> > this is my first post.
> > For a new design I'm going to use a embedded solution like the TS-7200 
> > board equipped with the CIRRUS EP9302 ARM9 processor.
> > Because I've read more over the net regarding this chip I like also to 
> > know what is the think of this community regarding EOL estimation and 
> > board usage with full Linux distribution.
> >
> > First question then is kindly ask you if someone have ufficial 
> > information regarding the EOL for this chip and then for the board, 
> > I've asked infos to TS and CIRRUS without feedback until now...
> >
> > Second question is about the Linux environment, I like to use Linux in 
> > order to make my first step in this word from WinXP and Intel based 
> > embedded PC mainly for a reduction cost reason, I've to be honest.
> > >From ufficial TS documentation I've read that such board can work 
> > with the TS-Linux embedded OS (preinstalled into the NOR flash) or 
> > with Debian distro installed on a external CF, regarding this stuff I 
> > like to know some think, idea from people that are using such solution 
> > with this board, just to know what I can attempt to found into the 
> > future during my application developing stage.
> >
> > Thanks to all for every hint and useful suggest.
> >
> > Regards
> > Pow
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
>




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