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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: Over current behavior with USB device on TS-7260
From: "wrsimpson.alaska" <>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:32:26 -0000
Hey Charliem_1216-

  Thanks for the information.  I'm using the 2.4 kernel, so I don't know the 
overcurrent condition in the syslog.  

  Regarding one or two ports, I see that the USB power on the TS-7260 schematic 
is just wired to both of the 5V power pins on the connector, so I don't think I 
get any more power by using two connectors.  

  I don't really have space in the design to fit a USB hub in between the 
devices.  Additionally, I'm not sure I like the reliability of using an extra 
device in there.  This application is part of an autonomous instrument that is 
deployed for a year at a time.

  Do you know if the 2.6 startup behavior might not turn on USB power until the 
drivers are in place?

--- In  "charliem_1216" <> wrote:
>
> --- In  "wrsimpson.alaska" <wrsimpson.alaska@> wrote:
> >
> > We are using a TS-7260 SBC to control an Ocean Optics spectrometer (a 
> > MayaPro) and are having problems with the USB system.  The problem has to 
> > do with the fact that the MayaPro consumes very near the USB limit of 
> > 500mA.  It appears to exceed significantly (>600mA) during power-on of the 
> > USB device.  
> > 
> > The first problem I had was that the internal 5V charge pump cannot deliver 
> > this much current.  I solved this by plugging the TS-7260 into a regulated 
> > 5V supply and inserting JP7, which then directly puts the regulated 5V to 
> > the USB power.  This helped a lot, but didn't solve the full problem.  
> > 
> > Now, I see the USB device in two different power states.  When plugging in 
> > the device or turning on the computer, I sometimes see one or the other 
> > state.  One is the "normal" working state, where it draws 470mA and has a 
> > voltage across the USB nominal 5V of 4.6V.  I think the voltage drop is 
> > partially on cables, contacts, and possibly the MIC2026 chip on the 
> > TS-7260.  The other power state is "high current", where the USB device 
> > draws 690mA, but only has 2.7V voltage across the nominal 5V.  I believe 
> > the other 2.2V is dropped in the MIC2026 chip because that chip becomes 
> > very hot in this state.  From looking at the MIC2026 data sheet, I believe 
> > that it has gone into overcurrent or thermal shutdown, which should only 
> > happen at 1000mA.  It might be that the USB device spiked that high, but I 
> > don't know.  
> 
> Isn't that 500 mA per port?
> 
> > 
> > Another funny observation is that when I start with the TS-7260 off and the 
> > USB device plugged in, here's what see upon power up.  The TS-7260 starts 
> > to boot, and the current of the USB device goes in the high-current state.  
> > The MIC2026 gets very hot.  The TS-7260 boots fully into runlevel 3, and 
> > then when I load the USB modules, the USB device suddenly switches into its 
> > operational state (normal current).  The thing that fixes the system is the 
> > loading of the module "insmod usb-ohci-ep93xx".  The current goes normal 
> > right after loading this module.  I have no clue what is happening here.  
> > Possibly that module momentarily interrupts the USB power and resets the 
> > USB device?  Possibly the USB device is drawing a high current before it 
> > enumerates onto the USB system?  
> 
> You don't say which kernel you are using, 2.6 or 2.4.  After 2.6.10, the USB 
> initialization method changed substantially.  Don't know about 2.4, but in 
> 2.6 overcurrent conditions should be in the syslog.  
> > 
> > My question is if anybody has seen this problem before, and figured out a 
> > workaround.
> 
> No, not myself.  I do have a couple of drive enclosures that use two USB 
> ports: one power & communication, and a second for power only.  Perhaps that 
> would be an option for you if you're running into a per-port overcurrent.  
> Another option would be to use a powered USB hub between the TS-7260 and your 
> spectrometer if you have space, and room in your power budget.  You may still 
> need to use two connectors.
> 
> regards, ......... Charlie
> 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> >
>




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