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[ts-7000] Re: Reboot issue with RTAI Application on the 7260

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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: Reboot issue with RTAI Application on the 7260
From: "jywmpg" <>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:58:18 -0000
Yes, that helped a great deal.  Thanks very much.  Things are working
much much better than before.

1. I was using rtai-load to launch my programs.  I now realize that
its main job was to load and unload the rtai modules.  I suspect it is
 just part of the test suite.

The system I am developing is an embedded system whose main purpose is
to perform this DIO task, so the RTAI application and modules should
be running all the time.  For ease of use, I just created an
/etc/init.d/rtai script that  loads the modules I need at boot time.

This cleared up several of the symptoms.

2. I took your suggesting and routed the RS-232 serial console output
to a file and examined it closely.  I was happy to find a few relevant
messages just before that crash that pointed to my non real time task.

To make a long story short, at reboot the real time task exits first.
 Subsequently the non real time tried to execute an rpc on the task
that had exited, trying to tell it to exit.   Nothing good happened
after that.

Adding a simple check before executing the rpc caused that crash to go
away.

3. At that point, I was able to reboot the machine in question
remotely via a script about 30 times in a row without issue.

4. Then the machine crashed on boot, just after the RTAI application
started.  

I noticed, however, that on this boot an fsck had been triggered on
the USB CF, since it was the 30th mounting without an fsck and that is
what it happens to be set for. 

5. I reran the '30 reboots' script again and, sure enough, all reboots
were
successful until about the 20th one, when an fsck was again triggered,
followed by the same sort of failure to boot as in #4.

I suspect that with a little more Googling I can track that one down,
but just wanted to let you know how things turned (are turning) out.  
I want to get to the bottom of the fsck issue, but I can live 20
reboots between crashes for right now.


Thanks again for the help.



jw


--- In  "Julien" <> wrote:
>
> Hello
> 
> Do you control your board by telnet ? If yes, the error could be that 
> you don't unload RTAI modules properly, and when you try to reboot 
> your system there is lot of error that you don't see (lot of numbers 
> like a matrix).
> I had this error after running the latency test and not unloading 
> RTAI modules. By telnet I first didn't understand why connection was 
> closed ans system didn't reboot. By RS232 I saw all errors due to 
> RTAI modules always running.
> 
> Just use a simple script to unload modules, the opposite of your load 
> script.
> For example if load script is :
> /sbin/insmod /usr/realtime/modules/rtai_hal.o
> /sbin/insmod /usr/realtime/modules/rtai_ksched.o
> /sbin/insmod /usr/realtime/modules/rtai_lxrt.o
> /sbin/insmod /usr/realtime/modules/rtai_sem.o
> /sbin/insmod /usr/realtime/modules/rtai_mbx.o
> /sbin/insmod /usr/realtime/modules/rtai_msg.o
> 
> then upload script is :
> /sbin/rmmod rtai_msg.o
> /sbin/rmmod rtai_mbx.o
> /sbin/rmmod rtai_sem.o
> /sbin/rmmod rtai_lxrt.o
> /sbin/rmmod rtai_ksched.o
> /sbin/rmmod rtai_hal.o
> 
> Hope that helps you.
> 
> Julien
> 
> --- In  sjanisch@ wrote:
> >
> > How are you stopping the RTAI application?
> > 
> > I think I recall reading something on the RTAI board about issuing 
> the 
> > stop_rt_timer, for instance, before one of the rt_task_wait_period 
> in a 
> > timer loop for instance... which causes things to hang. 
> > 
> > Did you write a signal reference to the SIGTERM signal and write 
> some 
> > internal code to shutdown everything nicely?  How do yo start/stop 
> the 
> > server at will from the command line -- ctrl-C or kill?  They 
> really are 
> > not the same if the kill is handled correctly.
> > 
> > Probably not much help...
> > 
> >  wrote on 04/17/2007 08:02:26 AM:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > My question is: Do I need to do something special to start/stop 
> RTAI
> > > applications from an /etc/init.d script?
> > > 
> > > Background:
> > > 
> > > I am developing an RTAI application that runs under a server that 
> in
> > > turn is started/stopped via an /etc/init.d script.  The init.d 
> script
> > > starts the server, which then spawns rtai-load to run the RTAI
> > > application. 
> > > 
> > > The RTAI application is similar to the 'latency' and 'display' 
> test
> > > programs in the latency test suite.  The hard real time part runs
> > > every half second to do some DIO operations then report results 
> to the
> > > non-real time part via an rt mailbox.  There is a second rt 
> mailbox
> > > for sending commands to the real time component from the non-real 
> time
> > >  side.
> > > 
> > > I am having a problem with the reboot sequence.  When I issue the
> > > 'reboot' command, about a third of the time the system hangs just
> > > after the TERM signal is sent to all tasks (literally half of the
> > > message is printed on the console). 
> > > 
> > > Cycling power usually clears the problem, although sometimes 
> there is
> > > a similar problem on boot-up: The system will boot as normal, but 
> hang
> > > as the RTAI application is started up.
> > > 
> > > The init.d scripts works fine from the command line.  I can start/
> stop
> > > the server and RTAI application at will without seeing the 
> problem.
> > > 
> > > If I modify the server to not start the RTAI application, the 
> reboot
> > > sequence works just fine. 
> > > 
> > > My next test is to have the server actually start the latency test
> > > suite program instead of the RTAI application and see if the 
> problem
> > > persists, but before I spend much more time on the issue, thought 
> I
> > > would see if anyone has had similar issues.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > jw
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
>




 
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