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Re: [ts-7000] Re: 983.04 Khz timer

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Subject: Re: [ts-7000] Re: 983.04 Khz timer
From: "Don W. Carr" <>
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:02:58 -0500
I set my laptop at the same time I set the system time and the
hardware clock, wich was well over 24 hours ago, and the laptop is
still within 1 second. Also the on-board battery-backed real-time
clock is still within 1 second. Of course these are both at room
temperature. I have come to expect that devices opperating at around
room temperature should maintain in the range of 1 second per day,
maximum 2 seconds drift. That is what I have seen.

Well, I think we have beat this horse to death for now and should move
on. I look forward to improved drift in the future with your Arm
boards. In the mean time, I will use work-arrounds.

On 4/18/06, Jesse Off <> wrote:
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>  > Your goal should be Arm boards that are within 1 second per day on
>  the
>  > system clock. I would imagine, with the hardware you have, you
>  could
>  > achive that with a little creativity, it is a matter of software.
>
>  1 second per day is beyond what can be done with today's common
>  crystal oscillator technology.  You would have to go with expensive
>  temperature compensated crystal oscillators or rubidium
>  oscillators.  One may be able to calibrate a single unit at a
>  constant temp better than 50 PPM, but crystals also drift with age--
>  it would be impossible for a manufacturer of hardware to guarantee a
>  more accurate clock than that of the crystal manufacturer and
>  crystal manufacturers say 50 PPM.
>
>  The timing drift in this instance is excacerbated by software,
>  specifically the Linux kernel and its legacy of a 100Hz tick rate.
>  We cannot take ownership of all Linux problems just like one cannot
>  expect to be able to contact the USB mouse manufacturer when a mouse
>  pointer locks up on a PC screen.  We fix what we can, but we can't
>  get any better accuracy currently with Linux.  I believe another one
>  of our customers in this forum actually use the TS-7200 in a NTP
>  server product they designed-- you may want to contact them for any
>  patches they may have made to the kernel.
>
>  GPS units have very precise timing.  We have a PC104 daughterboard
>  designed for a customer that includes a GPS unit that extracts an
>  extremely precise 1Hz and 10000Hz signal from the air.  This
>  solution would still be much cheaper than a rubidium oscillator.
>
>  //Jesse Off
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