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Subject: Re: Digest Number 7011
From: "Antonio Celis" tony_celis
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2018 2:52 pm ((PDT))
Hello all, I just want to share this cool picture of Dan Dugan - i found it=
 in my photos library.
This photo was taken during one of his microphone patterns discussion at th=
e Nature Sounds Society meeting in ~2014.
Saludos,Tony Celis    El s=E1bado, 29 de septiembre de 2018 22:50:53 GMT-4,=
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  Digest #7011            1a    Re: ambisonic audio   by "michael trommer" =
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   Re: ambisonic audio  
    
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   "michael trommer" trommer_michael  
     I agree with Aaron's comments above, though I find the narrative
possibilities inherent in immersive, ambisonic and head-position-dependent
sound to have a great deal of untapped potential (both in-and-of itself as
well as in conjunction with 360-degree visuals).

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:51 PM 'Brian Valente' 
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> Is it in the mics/capture, or more in the post processing, or maybe both?
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> *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:27 PM
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> Hi Brian,
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> I got excited at the prospect of taking an Ambisonics mic into the field
> to do the kind of 'anthropogenic'-centric soundscape recording I've done
> lots of using near-binaural mics (and some Blumlein and M/S and spaced
> omni).
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> The tantalizing prospect was to take composed immersive sound to the next
> level, allowing and playing with, as you say, listener head
> position=96especially since platforms like YouTube and Facebook support
> headset decode and have some rudimentary HRTF synthesis...
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> ...long story short, my enthusiasm cooled significantly when I played wit=
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> live-decode from recordings made with second-generation tetrahedral
> ambisonics, because for people used to 'rich' stereo with a lot of subtle
> cues for e.g. depth and focused localization, the stereo image produced
> felt very vague and flat=96more like an uneven flat sphere than a three
> dimensional space, as it were.
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> From what I understand higher-order Ambisonics fills in the 'holes' and
> gives more, but IMO what's going to be really necessary for the technique
> to work as I want is to somehow capture, and be able to "remove in post"
> the timing and maybe to some extent frequency variation characteristic of
> HRTF, and synthesize more accurately those differences for the
> realtime-rendered head position.
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> I have vague ideas of how one might in theory attempt this, there should
> be enough information in a tetrahedral array=96and there should be ways o=
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> e.g. using a nested double tetrahedral array at controlled spacing, maybe
> with the inner set serving as an occluding baffle...
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> ...but that would require a lot of computation if it worked at all...
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> ...and I'm too lazy personally to take it on. So far.
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> But absent some kind of next-generation step up, I am myself waiting for
> more to be there before jumping... :/
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> aaron
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> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 1:59 PM 'Brian Valente' 
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