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Subject: R: [Nature Recordists] Re: Esoteric Mic Builds: Multi-style CapsuleS
From: "LUCA BAGHINO" =
it
Date: Fri Mar 2, 2018 9:36 am ((PST))

Hello all

I am new to the list.

I have had some recent experience with the Primo EM172 capsules through the=
 ultrasonic frequencies having pushed them up to the upper limits of my cur=
rent recorders (Zoom H1 and Olympus LS7).

I have picked up some bat calls around 40 kHz as you can see at this Soundc=
loud link of the friend Marco Pesente:

https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/pipistrellus-kuhlii-genova-winter-2018=
_february_11-recorded-by-luca-baghinowav



Best,

Luca



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Inviato: gioved=EC 1 marzo 2018 20:19
A: 
Oggetto: RE: [Nature Recordists] Re: Esoteric Mic Builds: Multi-style Capsu=
leSASS



 

I=92ll test the EM172 up to 50 kHz as soon as I get a chance.. The source w=
ill be a Peerless XT25SC90 tweeter, which has a nominally flat response up =
to 40 kHz.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Peter Shute  [naturerecordists]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:39 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] Re: Esoteric Mic Builds: Multi-style Capsu=
leSASS

 
I thought the EM-172s also went well above spec. Maybe 30kHz? Can anyone co=
nfirm that? I recall someone saying they had recorded microbats with their =
M10's built in mics, which are EM-172s.

For a test source, are there no microbats at all where you are? They're a b=
it sparse where I live (suburb in Melbourne, Australia), but if I record al=
l night, I generally capture at least one pass in summer, one a week in win=
ter.

I tried using a computer to play a test tone to calibrate my bat detector, =
but was defeated by the inbuilt 20kHz filtering. I ended up using my Sony P=
CM-M10, which can play 96kHz sample rate wav files. I think I was able to g=
et 40kHz out of it, using the built in speaker. Perhaps your recorder can d=
o better?

Peter Shute

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> Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 7:18 AM
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> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Esoteric Mic Builds: Multi-style Capsule=
 SASS
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> Not sure. Nick Roast implied the EM258 extends well above the numbers
> listed in the datasheet, but I don't know what the upper end is.
>
> One of the things that's limited testing for me is that I don't have a lo=
t of
> known ultrasonic sources to play with. I asked around earlier this week a=
nd
> may have found a place to record the only species of bat on the island, s=
o I
> might have a better idea of the capsule's response from that, but I'd rea=
lly
> like something I can use in the lab, so to speak. It's hard to tweak thin=
gs if the
> only place I can test things is hours from the soldering iron.
>
> Thanks for the pointer toward the 8020s, Bernie. I don't have access to t=
hem
> here, but there's enough of a film industry in Austin I bet I can rent th=
em
> when I get there. I'll look into availability.
>
> Tom
>
>
















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