Aaron, thank you so much for this!
-Dan
> On Jul 16, 2017, at 12:34 PM, Aaron Ximm [naturereco=
rdists] <> wrote:
>
>
>
> With apologies if this sounds self-promotional,
>
> the difference between the Internet Archive (archive.org <http://archive.=
org/>) and the commercial services mentioned, is that the Archive is a nonp=
rofit (NGO) organization whose core mission is to preserve cultural materia=
ls and make them available for all=96future, and current.
>
> We most definitely do not have the slickest widgets, or advanced social m=
edia, etc.; but that's because we spend our time focused on trying to prese=
rve the most material we can, as safely as possible, with no requirement to=
reach quarterly profits etc.
>
> The looming demise of Soundcloud is just the latest in a long series of e=
ventual end-of-life events to services in which people have poured their wo=
rk... only to see it evaporate, often with meager notice.
>
> Part of what we try to convey to people is: however lovely, and convenien=
t, one of the defining characteristics of a cloud is its ephemerality.
>
> We also exist on the cloud; but we are an archive, and we take seriously =
the mission of long-term preservation.
>
> With that in mind I would urge people to use us as a safety store, in add=
ition to more feature rich commercial alternatives.
>
>
> As a side note, because of my passion for field recordings of all kinds, =
I hope myself to put some better organization in place when I can to organi=
ze and celebrate what we have. The challenge is always metadata...
>
> ...so if you do upload to us, please do provide the richest metadata you =
can. Best is to put it in the metadata fields of the items you create... bu=
t even including any sane format that details what you have, ensures that a=
later generation of researcher (probably aided by very smart tools...!) wi=
ll be able to learn as much as possible about the context of your recording=
s. The Etree band taper community has set a fine example of recording rigor=
ous provenance etc.
>
> Final aside: for large collections, there are some very handy tools avail=
able to make wrangling and uploading many items (thousands or more...) with=
appropriate metadata and multiple files, pretty easy. The native clunky 'u=
pload' tool for creating items one at a time is not the limiting factor. :)
>
> best regards,
> aaron
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 9:02 AM, rapsac <rapsa=
> [naturerecordists] < <mailt=
o:>> wrote:
> I can also recommend archive.org <http://archive.org/>, especially for th=
e ability to upload
> and stream FLAC. Bandcamp has the same functionality pretty much.
> Archive.org or bandcamp are not the best places to showcase short
> previews, sketches, etc. though. I guess more people will take to
> Youtube for these kind of ephemeral uploads if Soundcloud disappears.
>
> On 2017-07-15 23:15, Aaron Ximm <=
mail.com> [naturerecordists]
> wrote:
> > As an employee and believer in the nonprofit Internet Archive at archiv=
e.org <http://archive.org/>
> > I beg you to consider making material available there!
> >
> > The benefits are: we will accept full resolution recording and preserve
> > them for you free of charge forever; and we will make lower quality
> > streaming copies automatically and keep the formats up to date as they
> > evolve. You can add other media as well, any file type that is not
> > executable, really; and add searchable metadata as you see fit. We gene=
rate
> > spectrogram and you can use our embedded cross-browser player or deep l=
ink
> > from your own site.
> >
> > We have very high bandwidth up and down; and people can download via
> > automatically made BitTorrent.
> >
> > The only catch is that we ask that material be made available by CC or
> > similar open license; but we support all CC including my own default wh=
ich
> > specifies no commercial use [unless otherwise negotiated of course].
> >
> > For large collections with good metadata we can also set up custom
> > collections; by default you can just create an account and upload to it=
ems
> > in the catch all "community" collection at once. Items can be migrated
> > later so if you'd like to try it out upload away :)
> >
> > best,
> > aaron
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 11:43 AM Steve Sergeant <m=
ailto:>
> > [naturerecordists] < <naturereco=
>> wrote:
> >
> >> So it appears that Soundcloud.com is going away.
> >>
> >> What are the alternatives out there for hosting sounds under public
> >> domain or Creative Commons licenses that work for you?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/15/17 1:58 AM, rapsac <=
.net> [naturerecordists] wrote:
> >>> No, don't do that. Soundcloud is in trouble because they tried to
> >>> compete with Apple and Spotify and hence have to pay large amounts of
> >>> money to record labels. Sound recordists are not a part of the equati=
on
> >>> https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/soundshroud/ <https://techcrunch.co=
m/2017/07/12/soundshroud/>
> >>>
> >>> On 2017-07-06 23:33, Steve Sergeant <Stev=
>
> >>> [naturerecordists] wrote:
> >>>> Like many other nature sounds recordists, I depend on Soundcloud.com=
for
> >>>> my work to be heard [ http://soundcloud.com/stevesgt/ <http://soundc=
loud.com/stevesgt/> ].
> >>>>
> >>>> However, it seems that they're in some financial difficulty.
> >>>>
> >>>> [
> >>>>
> >> https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/soundcloud-slashes-40-staff-fin=
ancial-reality-hits-hard/ <https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/soundclou=
d-slashes-40-staff-financial-reality-hits-hard/>
> >>>> ]
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are currently a free member and this is an important outlet f=
or
> >>>> your work, it might be time to pay up.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >> Posted by: Steve Sergeant < <=
le.com>>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krau=
se.
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: rapsac < <>>
> ------------------------------------
>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo Groups Links
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>
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> quietamerican.org <http://quietamerican.org/>
> oneminutevacation.org <http://oneminutevacation.org/>
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> 83% happy
> 9% disgusted
> 6% fearful
> 2% angry
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