Tanzania. -
https://soundcloud.com/bwanakomba-1/aperkin-1011-flying-termites-crawling-u=
p-window-mesh
The first is a load call, about 4 meters from the subject, with lots of
other sounds (fruit bats, insects and traffic), while the second recording
is placed a few millimeters from the insects. I think the PMD did an OK
job plus its very portable, but I am getting a pair of EM172 omnis soon to
hopefully improve the quality and detail.
Cheers Andy
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> 1.1
> Re: Stereo mic - Ocean waves (Page correction)
> <#m_-2105749963506124985_1.1> by "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
> 1.2
> Re: Stereo mic <#m_-2105749963506124985_1.2> by weaveofkev
> 1.3
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> Re: Stereo mic - Ocean waves <#m_-2105749963506124985_2.1> by "Ray
> Mansell" BCTess
> 2.2
> Re: Stereo mic - Ocean waves <#m_-2105749963506124985_2.2> by "Bernie
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> 1.1 Re: Stereo mic - Ocean waves (Page correction)
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> Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic%20-%20Ocean%20wav=
es%20%28Page%20correction%29>
>
>
> Here=92s a segment recorded at the N. Sea, Aldeburgh, in the UK. Recorder
> LS10. Pre-amp: SD MixPre. Mics: DPA 4060s mounted on my shoulder. A decen=
t
> description of wave recording can also be found in my new book, Wild
> Soundscapes: Discovering the Voice of the Natural World, Pgs 172-174. Yal=
e
> Univ Press, 2016.
>
> https://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk <
> https://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk>
>
> Bernie
>
> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> 707-938-5388 <(707)%20938-5388>
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com <http://www.wildsanctuary.com/>
>
> SKYPE: WildSanctuary
> FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor <
> http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor>
> TED Global talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_
> the_natural_world?language=3Den <https://www.ted.com/talks/
> bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=3Den>
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:49 PM, <mailto:
> > [naturerecordists] <
> com <>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Gordon Hempton's web site and book are really good references for
> recording water. Here's a link to the part of his web page discussing wav=
es:
> >
> > http://blog.quietplanet.com/how-to-record-waves/ <
> http://blog.quietplanet.com/how-to-record-waves/>
> >
> > It's possible to record big wave action without all the hissy top-end,
> but it requires finding just the right beach. If there's an offshore reef=
,
> or if the beach is relatively shallow, waves tend to break farther out or
> break far out and then closer in. Either way the distant waves or
> multi-break waves create a lot of background hiss.
> >
> > All of which would be beside the point, except that you can control tha=
t
> hiss to some degree with your microphone setup. An SASS creates a wonderf=
ul
> sense of space, but I haven't found a way to keep it from picking up
> distant waves except by choosing a beach that only has a close break. You
> can eliminate some of the background hiss of distant waves by using a mor=
e
> directional microphone and pointing it down, but you lose some of the sen=
se
> of space when you do. But I'm getting off topic.
> >
> > To go back to the question you asked about stereo enhancing what you
> like, Ross's recording is a really good example of what an SASS does with
> wave action. (I love pebble beaches, Ross, and that was beautiful to list=
en
> to.) Last year or so I recorded using a similar setup (SASS with single
> capsules) at a sand beach that had an uneven break - waves breaking left =
to
> right, right to left, etc. I think the recording loses a lot when listene=
d
> to in mono. (Good point about just dropping one of the channels, Vicki!)
> >
> > https://soundcloud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves <
> https://soundcloud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves>
> >
> > In terms of portability, an SASS is going to be bigger than a single X-=
Y
> or M-S microphone. It comes down to a question of which stereo mic setup
> gives you the soundscape you're after, and what compromises you're willin=
g
> to make to get the sound you want.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:10 am (PDT) . Posted by: weaveofkev
> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic>
> Hello,
>
> I noticed some of the hissy hi end stuff can be the foam bubbles bursting
> on the beach, it can be deceiving to the ears, so that's something to kee=
p
> in mind.
> Here's my most recent ocean waves recording a Stinson Beach of the coast
> of California.
> I used a Zaxcom Maxx and a Neumann KU100 Binaural Dummy Head Microphone
> for this recording.
>
>
> https://soundcloud.com/user-744352700/stinson-beach-
> california-crashing-waves-binaural https://soundcloud.com/user-
> 744352700/stinson-beach-california-crashing-waves-binaural
>
>
>
> Kevin Durr
>
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> Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:53 pm (PDT) . Posted by: om4kbkt4b4u45thq3w3x5bvqs3bwe=
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> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic>
> Tom, It comes down to a question of which stereo mic setup gives you the
> soundscape you're after, and what compromises you're willing to make to g=
et
> the sound you want...
>
>
>
> Good point,says it all.Nice waves in Hawai by the way, not all one
> dimensional and the end result well thought out.
> Martin
>
>
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> Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by: om4kbkt4b4u45thq3w3x5bvqs3bwe=
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> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic>
> Ross,
> Thanks for inspiring wash and swash
> Martin
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> 2.1 Re: Stereo mic - Ocean waves
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> Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:50 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Ray Mansell" BCTess
> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic%20-%20Ocean%20waves=
>
> Very nice. We were there a couple of years ago visiting friends, and whil=
e
> listening to your recording I was looking back at the photographs we took
> on that very same beach :-)
>
> Ray
>
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Bernie Krause
> [naturerecordists] <> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Here=92s a segment recorded at the N. Sea, Aldeburgh, in the UK. Record=
er
> > LS10. Pre-amp: SD MixPre. Mics: DPA 4060s mounted on my shoulder. A
> decent
> > description of wave recording can also be found in my new book, *Wild
> > Soundscapes: Discovering the Voice of the Natural World, *Pgs
> > 172-172. Yale Univ Press, 2016.
> >
> > https://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > Wild Sanctuary
> > POB 536
> > Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> > 707-938-5388 <(707)%20938-5388> <(707)%20938-5388>
> > http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> >
> > SKYPE: WildSanctuary
> > FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
> > TED Global talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_
> > of_the_natural_world?language=3Den
> >
> > On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:49 PM, [naturerecordists] =
<
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Gordon Hempton's web site and book are really good references for
> > recording water. Here's a link to the part of his web page discussing
> waves:
> >
> > http://blog.quietplanet.com/how-to-record-waves/
> >
> > It's possible to record big wave action without all the hissy top-end,
> but
> > it requires finding just the right beach. If there's an offshore reef, =
or
> > if the beach is relatively shallow, waves tend to break farther out or
> > break far out and then closer in. Either way the distant waves or
> > multi-break waves create a lot of background hiss.
> >
> > All of which would be beside the point, except that you can control tha=
t
> > hiss to some degree with your microphone setup. An SASS creates a
> wonderful
> > sense of space, but I haven't found a way to keep it from picking up
> > distant waves except by choosing a beach that only has a close break. Y=
ou
> > can eliminate some of the background hiss of distant waves by using a
> more
> > directional microphone and pointing it down, but you lose some of the
> sense
> > of space when you do. But I'm getting off topic.
> >
> > To go back to the question you asked about stereo enhancing what you
> like,
> > Ross's recording is a really good example of what an SASS does with wav=
e
> > action. (I love pebble beaches, Ross, and that was beautiful to listen
> to.)
> > Last year or so I recorded using a similar setup (SASS with single
> > capsules) at a sand beach that had an uneven break - waves breaking lef=
t
> to
> > right, right to left, etc. I think the recording loses a lot when
> listened
> > to in mono. (Good point about just dropping one of the channels, Vicki!=
)
> >
> > https://soundcloud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves
> >
> > In terms of portability, an SASS is going to be bigger than a single X-=
Y
> > or M-S microphone. It comes down to a question of which stereo mic setu=
p
> > gives you the soundscape you're after, and what compromises you're
> willing
> > to make to get the sound you want.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Reply to sender
> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic%20-%20Ocean%20waves=
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> Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:18 am (PDT) . Posted by: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
> <=3DRe%3A%20Stereo%20mic%20-%20Ocean%20wav=
es>
> Thanks, Ray. It is a lovely spot.
>
> Bernie
>
> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> 707-938-5388 <(707)%20938-5388>
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>
> SKYPE: WildSanctuary
> FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
> TED Global talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_
> the_natural_world?language=3Den
>
> > On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Ray Mansell
> [naturerecordists] <> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Very nice. We were there a couple of years ago visiting friends, and
> while listening to your recording I was looking back at the photographs w=
e
> took on that very same beach :-)
> >
> > Ray
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Bernie Krause
> <>[naturerecordists] <
> <=
>>
> wrote:
> > Here=92s a segment recorded at the N. Sea, Aldeburgh, in the UK. Record=
er
> LS10. Pre-amp: SD MixPre. Mics: DPA 4060s mounted on my shoulder. A decen=
t
> description of wave recording can also be found in my new book, Wild
> Soundscapes: Discovering the Voice of the Natural World, Pgs 172-172. Yal=
e
> Univ Press, 2016.
> >
> >
> > https://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk <
> https://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk>
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > Wild Sanctuary
> > POB 536
> > Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> > 707-938-5388 <(707)%20938-5388> <tel:(707)%20938-5388>
> > http://www.wildsanctuary.com <http://www.wildsanctuary.com/>
> > <>
> > SKYPE: WildSanctuary
> > FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor <
> http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor>
> > TED Global talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_
> the_natural_world?language=3Den <https://www.ted.com/talks/
> bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=3Den>
> >> On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:49 PM, <mailto:
> > [naturerecordists] <
> com <>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gordon Hempton's web site and book are really good references for
> recording water. Here's a link to the part of his web page discussing wav=
es:
> >>
> >> http://blog.quietplanet.com/how-to-record-waves/ <
> http://blog.quietplanet.com/how-to-record-waves/>
> >>
> >> It's possible to record big wave action without all the hissy top-end,
> but it requires finding just the right beach. If there's an offshore reef=
,
> or if the beach is relatively shallow, waves tend to break farther out or
> break far out and then closer in. Either way the distant waves or
> multi-break waves create a lot of background hiss.
> >>
> >> All of which would be beside the point, except that you can control
> that hiss to some degree with your microphone setup. An SASS creates a
> wonderful sense of space, but I haven't found a way to keep it from picki=
ng
> up distant waves except by choosing a beach that only has a close break.
> You can eliminate some of the background hiss of distant waves by using a
> more directional microphone and pointing it down, but you lose some of th=
e
> sense of space when you do. But I'm getting off topic.
> >>
> >> To go back to the question you asked about stereo enhancing what you
> like, Ross's recording is a really good example of what an SASS does with
> wave action. (I love pebble beaches, Ross, and that was beautiful to list=
en
> to.) Last year or so I recorded using a similar setup (SASS with single
> capsules) at a sand beach that had an uneven break - waves breaking left =
to
> right, right to left, etc. I think the recording loses a lot when listene=
d
> to in mono. (Good point about just dropping one of the channels, Vicki!)
> >>
> >> https://soundcloud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves <
> https://soundcloud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves>
> >>
> >> In terms of portability, an SASS is going to be bigger than a single
> X-Y or M-S microphone. It comes down to a question of which stereo mic
> setup gives you the soundscape you're after, and what compromises you're
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