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On Jul 15, 2014, at 4:48 PM, rapsac  [naturerecordists] =
<> wrote:

> I believe this discussion has proven, beyond any doubt, the existence of =
bad recordists. They are out there.
> On 2014-07-15 16:25, Bernie Krause  [naturerecordi=
sts] wrote:
>> About 15 years ago, when I still had the Audio Forensic Center, I was mo=
re or less gainfully employed doing audio tape analysis, gun shots recordin=
g work, and voice print analysis for the Federal and State court systems as=
 an expert witness, I got a request from a group living in N. California ca=
lled, I think, the Big Foot Project. They hired me to do an analysis on hou=
rs of tape they claimed they=92d recorded of the great beastie=92s dulcet v=
oice. And they offered a shit-load of money to have the analysis done, even=
 though I cautioned them that most likely, we=92d get no result.
>> At no small expense, because they we so persistent, I did the work. Turn=
ed out that they had created a terrible, over-dubbed tape with 3 or 4 layer=
s of signal, some recorded in the outside at dawn that they claimed was rec=
orded at around midnight, overdubbed with someone repeatedly saying somethi=
ng like, =93Come here, big boy.=94 No kidding, stuff like that. And in the =
background, obvious human grunts closely mic=92d, they claimed was the grea=
t vision, himself. With each successive layer of recording, you could detec=
t traces of different 60Hz tracks introduced (typical of most tape recordin=
gs of the era), also various levels of tape hiss with each pass. Remember, =
this was submitted to me as proof of their encounter with Big Foot. The tap=
e was so bad, that at some point, after finding clear evidence of over 200 =
edits/overdubs, I was embarrassed and just handed them back their box of ta=
pes, most of their money, and only billed for about 10% of my time. To say =
this was all faked, is a bit of an understatement.
>> If folks need to believe in this kind of horsy manure in order to fill t=
heir lives with some kind of meaning or drama, then so be it. Please, howev=
er, just don=92t lay this kind of crap on others.
>> For what it=92s worth,
>> Bernie Krause
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Curt Olson  [naturere=
cordists] <> wrote:
>>> I got dragged down this road a couple years ago in a brief e-mail excha=
nge with a Sasquatch hunter who claimed he heard one on my website. Nope...=
 what he heard was a winnowing snipe.
>>> He pointed me to a track on SoundCloud that purported to be a Sasquatch=
 vocalization captured in Minnesota north of Duluth. Nope again... it was n=
othing more than a very poor job of audio fakery.
>>> Curt Olson
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> Posted by: Curt Olson <>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kraus=

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