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From: "John Burchard" tepegawra
Date: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:59 pm ((PDT))
David Brinicombe wrote:

>> In fact, sound IS light.
> Only in that they are forms of transmitted energy. Sorry to be
> pedantic.
> While I'm apologising, I'm about to rain on the parade. I've always
> been interested in astronomy from my father, but light pollution is
> everywhere. I'm lucky to live in a remote valley where I can still
> see the Milky Way through the light pollution of Barnstaple 12 miles
> away, but it is a rare sight for most people today. Many kids don't
> even know it is there.

Most, I would say.  See earlier reference to NASA images of the world at ni=
Beautiful, some say.  Terrifying, I say <no G>

> Both sound pollution and light pollution it is ubiquitous for the vast
> majority of people who put up with it. Without reordering society,
> these pollutions are here to stay. We have banished silence along
> with the night sky.

Habituation conquers all.  And we are not aware of it.  Not really, to the =
extent, even those of us who like David have both the desire and the opport=
to get away from the "din of civilization".

> A problem I see with publicising quiet places is that people will
> then want t drive there to experience it, defeating the object.

<G> but actually not funny at al!

> In my quiet dark valley, I still get helicopters, airliners, military
> jets, a distant train, passing motorbikes and sports cars with
> deficient mufflers, tractors, farmer's quad bikes, and a grain mill a
> mile away.
> 20 to 30 miles away, Exmoor is relatively quiet in places, so I noise
> pollute my way there is a car to find quiet. That's the irony.

One of them.  It's multi-layered.

I lived for a year (1986) in extremely rural Spain, where the way to visit
neighbors (several miles away, each) was to grab not a car but a horse, and=
across the fields.  Since then Spain has joined the EU and most of what I k=
there has vanished.  Where I now live in California - you could not be much=
remote, at least by looking at a map - military jet fighters practice pursu=
manoevers right over our heads (because they suppose nobody is there to be
bothered, they couldn't do it within earshot of "civilization" without prov=
an uproar).  Talk about deafening.  I haven't any B+K sound level measuring
gear, but it's over the pain threshold for minutes at a time.  In the name =
er, "readiness".  Well, they have to practice somewhere (and in another par=
t of
past life I've had occasion to be very thankful for "air support")

But I still resent it when on several days each week they create literally
deafening noise for maybe two or three hours on end.

John E. Burchard, Ph.D.
Tepe Gawra Salukis

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