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Subject: 2. Re: Impressed!
From: "Keith Smith" smith9e499
Date: Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:55 pm ((PST))
Hi, All.
I've been seriously distracted lately, but have still been lurking,
occasionally.

With all this talk about tripods, I was disappointed there are no Benbo
addicts here. Maybe a bit heavy for anything but short walks, but it can
hold a mic or a camera in just about any silly place or attitude you can
imagine -deep into corners or even upside down dangling in a manhole. I
sometimes mount a Manfrotto pan and a ball head (both ends of the boom have
screws 1/4 & 3/8"). I've had the standard version for many years. Lovely.
there is a lighter 'Trekker version, too.

Definitely Britain's greatest gift to the world, perhaps excepting Max &
David ;)

cor blimey, er, guv!
k


On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:30 PM, sounds.images <>wrot=
e:

> **
>
>
> I read this with interest. Nice article. ( forgotten if I replied to this
> and to One of Klas' posts) so thought I should. I am looking into what I
> should do next. Any suggestions welcome...
> I know I need better mic cables soon and longer ones too...
> But anything I am missing?
>
> --- In  vickipowys wrote:
> >
> > This comparison between the Telinga SSM and my DIY SASS Lite may also
> > be of interest. Both rigs use the same mics in their construction,
> > i.e. 2 x Primo EM172s per channel. My article first appeared on the
> > Boundary Mics group blog, and I have now added it to my own website.
> > The rigs are both using PIP from Olympus LS10 recorders.
> >
> > http://www.caperteebirder.com/index.php?p=3D1_35_Telinga-SSM-vs-DIY-SAS=
S
> >
> > Vicki Powys
> > Australia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25/02/2013, at 6:47 AM, Dan Dugan wrote:
> >
> > > Klas Strandberg, Bernie Krause, and I did an A/B test on Bernie's
> > > deck comparing a Telinga SSM stereo array with DPA 4060s into a
> > > Sound Devices 788T with Naiant phantom-to-PIP adaptors for the SSM.
> > > The 4060s were clipped to the sides of the SSMs' windscreens. Level-
> > > matched, the SSMs were audibly quieter. After (in post) equalizing
> > > the SSMs to flat-on-axis (they have a presence boost) their noise
> > > spectra diverged around 2KHz. The SSMs were 3dB quieter at 4K and
> > > 6dB quieter above 8KHz.
> > >
> > > Disclosure: Klas manufactures Telinga mics, and I am a dealer.
> > >
> > > -Dan
> > >
> > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Jez wrote:
> > >
> > >> btw. might be helpful (I know its a can of worms !) to list a few
> > >> mics, of something approaching equal sound quality of the DPA's,
> > >> that are quieter in terms of self noise than 17db.
> > >>
> > >> my own favourite mic right now is the Sanken CUW-180 but that is
> > >> also 17db, though i've not found the self noise to be an issue
> > >> even recording empty (very, very quiet) buildings for example.
> > >>
> > >> --- In  Dan Dugan wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I would (carefully !) take issue with the comment about self
> > >>>> noise of 17db not being good enough for nature work as most of
> > >>>> the mics that offer truly stunning recordings in the field have
> > >>>> self noise of around this or even higher (such as the DPA4060's).
> > >>>
> > >>> In terms of fidelity I agree with you completely. It all depends
> > >>> on the scene. In quiet forest or desert soundscapes 17dBA mic
> > >>> self-noise will be the noise floor of the recording. In these
> > >>> cases quieter mics will be better.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>



--
Keith Smith

Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai - www.keithsmith.ca
Photography - www.mymountains.ca









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