This comparison between the Telinga SSM and my DIY SASS Lite may also
be of interest. Both rigs use the same mics in their construction,
i.e. 2 x Primo EM172s per channel. My article first appeared on the
Boundary Mics group blog, and I have now added it to my own website. =
The rigs are both using PIP from Olympus LS10 recorders.
http://www.caperteebirder.com/index.php?p=3D1_35_Telinga-SSM-vs-DIY-SASS
Vicki Powys
Australia
On 25/02/2013, at 6:47 AM, Dan Dugan wrote:
> Klas Strandberg, Bernie Krause, and I did an A/B test on Bernie's
> deck comparing a Telinga SSM stereo array with DPA 4060s into a
> Sound Devices 788T with Naiant phantom-to-PIP adaptors for the SSM.
> The 4060s were clipped to the sides of the SSMs' windscreens. Level-
> matched, the SSMs were audibly quieter. After (in post) equalizing
> the SSMs to flat-on-axis (they have a presence boost) their noise
> spectra diverged around 2KHz. The SSMs were 3dB quieter at 4K and
> 6dB quieter above 8KHz.
>
> Disclosure: Klas manufactures Telinga mics, and I am a dealer.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Jez wrote:
>
>> btw. might be helpful (I know its a can of worms !) to list a few
>> mics, of something approaching equal sound quality of the DPA's,
>> that are quieter in terms of self noise than 17db.
>>
>> my own favourite mic right now is the Sanken CUW-180 but that is
>> also 17db, though i've not found the self noise to be an issue
>> even recording empty (very, very quiet) buildings for example.
>>
>> --- In Dan Dugan <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would (carefully !) take issue with the comment about self
>>>> noise of 17db not being good enough for nature work as most of
>>>> the mics that offer truly stunning recordings in the field have
>>>> self noise of around this or even higher (such as the DPA4060's).
>>>
>>> In terms of fidelity I agree with you completely. It all depends
>>> on the scene. In quiet forest or desert soundscapes 17dBA mic
>>> self-noise will be the noise floor of the recording. In these
>>> cases quieter mics will be better.
>
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