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2. Re: Summary: [Nature Recordists] Re: EIN values and bits and peaks

Subject: 2. Re: Summary: [Nature Recordists] Re: EIN values and bits and peaks
From: "Eric Benjamin" ericbenjamin2
Date: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:58 am ((PST))
The difference between A weighting and an unweighted measurement depends on=
 the
bandwidth and the spectrum of the noise, as has been said previously.  The=

amount of the difference can be calculated by integrating the weighting cur=
ve
over the bandwidth of the measurement.  You don't have to pull out your cal=
culus
text book because I just did the calculation.

for white noise in a 48 kHz bandwidth, A weighting reduces the measurement =
by
Message: 2.
Subject: 72 dB
for pink noise in a 48 kHz bandwidth, A weighting reduces the measurement b=
y
Message: 3.
Subject: 70 dB

As shown by Robin below, the difference in level between ITU-R 468 weightin=
g and
A-weighting for a microphone tends to run about 10 to 12 dB.  The A-weighti=
ng
curve and the 468 curve are different, but they're not that different, othe=
r
than the offset.

I maintain that A-weighting is better than 468 weighting for determining th=
e
audibility of noise, although neither of them is particularly accurate.  I =
can
demonstrate why this is if anyone is interested.  But the important point i=
s
that if one were to order a group of microphones in terms of their A-weight=
ed
noise or in terms of their 468 weighted noise, the ordering is almost the s=
ame.
 That range of 10 to 12 dB for the observed difference between A-weighting =
and
468 weighting has mostly to do with whether the microphone is an omni or a=

pressure-gradient type.  Because pressure-gradient microphones are resistan=
ce
controlled (the condenser ones, that is), they tend to have considerably mo=
re
low-frequency noise than do omnis.  That accounts for the 2 dB difference.

One final point.  I don't think that this has been published anywhere, but =
the
threshold of audibility for noise is about 6 dB SPL.  If the reproduction i=
s
done at a natural level, if a microphone having a self noise of less than 6=
 dB
SPL was used then the noise in the recording will be inaudible.

Eric



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