Yes. Uncle Ken Williams in Colney. Was with Norwich Union for many years.
My Dad, also from Norwich, was sent to Alberta for flight training in WWII.
He was Capt. RA and Fl. Lt. RAF at the same time. The story is that the RA
wanted their own people to fly recon missions and chose 50 men for the job.
Dad fell in love with the mountains here and when the war was over
emigrated to Canada with my mother and older sister in '47. I came along
after that. Funny thing was that he soon got transferred to Toronto and I
grew up near there. He never got out here again.
Are the ghosts at Thorpe Gardens still upset? It was called the Rushcutters
when I was there in '86. Word was, they were throwing cutlery around. My
grandmother managed it during the war.
Cheers to you, Max!
k
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Keith Smith <> wrote:
> I see. Yahoo breaks the link.
> try this<http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/121114-GriffithWoods_Sony%20EC=
M-MS907_661_InGain8.wav>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Max <> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> I can't get to work either, and I've tried it two browsers; Firefox and
>> Chrome?
>>
>> Max
>>
>> --- In Keith Smith <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry 'bout that! This tests OK -darned if I can see the difference ;)
>> > http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/121114-GriffithWoods_Sony
>> > ECM-MS907_661_InGain8.wav
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Max <> wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi Keith!
>> > > OK, the good news; I just love your brilliant piccie - devastatingly
>> good!
>> > > The bad news; the sound link doesn't work. I was so looking forward =
to
>> > > listening to that, particularly as you went to all that trouble.
>> > > So, you've got an uncle in Norwich? I live about 70 miles from there=
;
>> it's
>> > > a beautiful city. Are you an ex pat, or is it one of those complicat=
ed
>> > > stories? If so, you don't have to tell it!
>> > > Hope you can sort the link
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > > Max
>> > >
>> > > --- In Keith Smith <kahsmith@>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > HI Max,
>> > > > I've never sold anything good without regretting it later (usually
>> > > within a
>> > > > week!). A couple of those guitars would buy me a lovely mic closet
>> today.
>> > > >
>> > > > I took the Sony ECM MS907 out this morning. Terrible day for air
>> > > traffic. I
>> > > > was on the edge of the city. Things are pretty slow for wildlife
>> sounds
>> > > > around here at this time of year (and at my skill level), so it
>> won't
>> > > sound
>> > > > like my uncle's English country garden in Norwich!
>> > > >
>> > > > It's pretty hissy, but not the most objectionable hiss I've ever
>> heard.
>> > > The
>> > > > MS907 is plugged into a Marantz PMD 661 with the gain set to 8. I
>> haven't
>> > > > applied any EQ, or postGain; just chopped and x-faded. At 2:12 I
>> replay
>> > > the
>> > > > last few seconds with some gentle denoising (Voxengo Redunoise
>> > > --signature
>> > > > acquired from the under-the-bedclothes test) with 2db of makeup
>> gain.
>> > > > Temperature is about 4=B0C, gently breezy and you'll hear some sno=
w
>> falling
>> > > > off trees in the sun. The creek will perhaps give a better idea of
>> the
>> > > > imaging at 120=B0, which hasn't been altered. I'm guessing this wo=
uld
>> be
>> > > > similar to the HD-P2 at about 7-7.5, as the Marantz pre's seem to
>> offer a
>> > > > little more, and quieter gain.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/121114-GriffithWoods_SonyECM-MS907_661=
_InGain8.wav
>> > > >
>> > > > I also met a new
>> > > > friend<
>> http://www.samplesmith.com/NatRec/2012_11_14_IMG_0066-1-1.JPG>who
>> > >
>> > > > made my day -love these image-stabilizing tele's!
>> > > > k
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Max <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > **
>> > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi Keith!
>> > > > > Let's hope I have better luck with THIS reply!
>> > > > > Firstly, in reference to the CAD 179, I do have one of those, an=
d
>> > > bought
>> > > > > it with the intention of making up an M/S rig, but never did get
>> > > around to
>> > > > > it. The original idea was to use it with my MKH60 which I sold
>> complete
>> > > > > with Rycote basket and fluffy for a silly price brrr! Secondly, =
I
>> also
>> > > > > still have my HD-P2. This is pure luck, because I bought it in a
>> bit
>> > > of a
>> > > > > state, with repair work needing doing, and because it looks a bi=
t
>> > > rough I
>> > > > > didn't bother to sell it, even though it now works perfectly. A
>> month
>> > > or
>> > > > > two back a brand new sealed case for it came up on eBay at a sil=
ly
>> > > price,
>> > > > > so I bought it, and at least it looks better now! The only other
>> mic
>> > > I'm
>> > > > > likely to buy sometime is the AT BP 4025, which Jan brought to m=
y
>> > > attention
>> > > > > with one of his marvelous recordings. I still have a couple of
>> ME66's
>> > > with
>> > > > > K6's, but one of them is faulty; must sort that out! Lots of
>> things to
>> > > keep
>> > > > > me happy for a while anyway.
>> > > > > I went out yesterday to see if I could find some Crossbills to
>> record;
>> > > I
>> > > > > found them, but had equipment problems. I'd taken the Nakamichi
>> > > collection
>> > > > > with me and had the long shotgun on it. It soon became clear I
>> there
>> > > was a
>> > > > > problem which made all three mics useless! The birds were there
>> with a
>> > > nice
>> > > > > flock of Siskins, but the means to record them wasn't!! On
>> inspection
>> > > this
>> > > > > morning, it turns out that the problem was with the lead which
>> came
>> > > with
>> > > > > the mics. Clearly at some time the previous owner had replaced t=
he
>> > > lead and
>> > > > > for some reason hadn't connected the ground in the XLR! When I'd
>> > > previously
>> > > > > tested it, it must by chance have been just touching?! For some
>> stupid
>> > > > > reason; I'm guessing old age, it didn't occur to me to use the
>> internal
>> > > > > mics! Such is life
>> > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > Max
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In Keith Smith <kahsmith@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Heh, It's probably my bad Karma, Max.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I did notice the 25 DB?, so I haven't been in a hurry ;)
>> > > > > > When I bought the Sony mic it was a few years before I became
>> at all
>> > > > > > serious about recording. It was an improvement over something
>> even
>> > > > > cheaper.
>> > > > > > I was making casual recordings of gigs I played, so much of th=
e
>> > > > > self-noise
>> > > > > > would have been masked by cymbals and the background noise of
>> the
>> > > crowd.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As I think back, I have to admit I'm a wimp. Although my first
>> > > recordings
>> > > > > > go back to a Webcor wire recorder, it wasn't until half decent
>> audio
>> > > > > > interfaces for computers became affordable that I could get
>> results
>> > > that
>> > > > > I
>> > > > > > could stand, and thereafter develop more than a cursory
>> interest in
>> > > > > > recording.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Some of the most useful material I've seen on comparing mic
>> specs
>> > > came on
>> > > > > > links I found in this group. It was a great help to get a feel
>> for
>> > > how
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > relationship between sensitivity and self-noise affect noise
>> > > performance
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > a mic/pre combination.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > http://www.avisoft.com/tutorial_mic_recorder.htm (Raimund is a
>> major
>> > > > > > contributor here.)
>> > > > > > http://www.rane.com/note148.html
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I also find this site very useful:
>> > > > > > http://www.microphone-data.com/
>> > > > > > You need to set up an account (free), but I haven't received a=
ny
>> > > new, or
>> > > > > > more spam than usual after signing up.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Take a look at the sensitivity vs self-noise of some of the >$=
2K
>> > > > > > Sennheiser's that get mentioned on this list. Then take a
>> Valium &
>> > > lay
>> > > > > down
>> > > > > > for a while.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > A little OT:
>> > > > > > One source of inexpensive and quiet mics that seldom gets
>> mentioned
>> > > here
>> > > > > is
>> > > > > > CAD. I have 3 M-179's and a Pair of e300=B2's. One caveat with
>> these is
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > they're pretty greedy on phantom power, drawing around 8ma/ea,
>> which
>> > > will
>> > > > > > probably exceed what your portable recorder will supply. They
>> are
>> > > > > > multi-pattern though (179's are inf variable), and great for M=
S
>> > > > > recording.
>> > > > > > I got some decent MS stuff with a pair of 179's on my Tascam
>> HDP2,
>> > > > > before I
>> > > > > > realized I might be toasting the phantom supply. Now I'm a bit
>> timid
>> > > > > about
>> > > > > > trying it again.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Rode is in the same league for noise, and probably less greedy
>> but on
>> > > > > some
>> > > > > > models they seem a little queasy about actually stating curren=
t
>> draw
>> > > > > (just
>> > > > > > listing as P48).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I think my next move is to get some Primo EM172's (lots of stu=
ff
>> > > here on
>> > > > > > these) and warm up the soldering iron.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > Keith
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Max <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > **
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I've emailed you privately Keith
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --- In "Max"
>> <maxcatterwell@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Very strange!!! I added my reply to Keith on the end of my
>> > > previous
>> > > > > > > post, but once again it wouldn't send. So I deleted it, and
>> off it
>> > > > > went????
>> > > > > > > I'll try adding it here, but I'm not hopeful.
>> > > > > > > > No, it won't go!?
>> > > > > > > > I'll try posting under a new title
>> > > > > > > > Max
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > --- In "Max"
>> <maxcatterwell@>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Hi David,
>> > > > > > > > > I'm having great difficulty posting this evening; I've
>> been
>> > > trying
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > reply to Keith for hours without success. I'll post my reply
>> to
>> > > him on
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > end of this, just in case.
>> > > > > > > > > OK, I appreciate your reply and the extra input you've
>> given.
>> > > One
>> > > > > > > thing I'm assuming about this mic, is that the decoding is
>> done
>> > > > > internally.
>> > > > > > > At this point in time my technical knowledge is limited, but
>> as
>> > > > > there's no
>> > > > > > > mention of having to decode, I'm guessing it won't need to b=
e
>> > > done. In
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > way I hope it DOES have to be done, because it would be
>> something
>> > > to
>> > > > > learn
>> > > > > > > and play with in Audition! But as I've said already, I'm not
>> really
>> > > > > > > expecting much for such a dirt cheap mic, but it was the m/s
>> spec
>> > > that
>> > > > > > > rather intrigued me. Time will tell.
>> > > > > > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > > > > > Max
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --- In "Avocet" <brini=
@
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > What do YOU make of the specs? It's so cheap that I'=
m
>> > > tempted
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > > buy
>> > > > > > > > > > > one whatever, to try with my LS-10.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Max,
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > It is likely to be value for money, take that as you
>> will.
>> > > :-)
>> > > > > As a
>> > > > > > > > > > kickabout mic or for putting on idents, fine, but don'=
t
>> > > expect
>> > > > > much
>> > > > > > > > > > with those specs.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > The stated noise level is high, whatever weighting is
>> used
>> > > but I
>> > > > > > > would
>> > > > > > > > > > have thought that they would have stated A-weighting i=
f
>> that
>> > > is
>> > > > > what
>> > > > > > > > > > they mean. Witn no info, I'd expect a "best case" test=
.
>> They
>> > > are
>> > > > > > > > > > unlikely to publish a "worst case" test.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > The output worries me at 5.6mV/Pa which is low for any
>> mic.
>> > > With
>> > > > > > > quiet
>> > > > > > > > > > sounds like nature recording, the input noise of any
>> > > affordable
>> > > > > > > > > > recorder will probably be audible, even over the 25dB
>> mic
>> > > spec.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > As a music mic, the max SPL of 110 dB rules it out for
>> close
>> > > > > miking
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > > instruments or even voices. It may be bad for handling
>> noise
>> > > and
>> > > > > > > prone
>> > > > > > > > > > to wind as well due to the fig-8 reponse.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > You can't easily separate out the M cardioid capsule s=
o
>> you
>> > > will
>> > > > > > > > > > always have an all-round pickup from the fig-8.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > David
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > David Brinicombe
>> > > > > > > > > > North Devon, UK
>> > > > > > > > > > Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Keith Smith
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai -
>> > > www.keithsmith.ca
>> > > > > > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Keith Smith
>> > > >
>> > > > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai -
>> www.keithsmith.ca
>> > > > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Keith Smith
>> >
>> > Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai - www.keithsmith.c=
a
>> > Photography - www.mymountains.ca
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keith Smith
>
> Keith Smith Trio, Northern Lights =96 Altai Khangai - www.keithsmith.ca
> Photography - www.mymountains.ca
>
>
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