Hi David
The recording was done on the path between West and South hide at Minsmere.=
It was on the Islandmere side of the path, in fairly thick reed bed with a=
small pool a couple of yards from the path. Which is why I had originally =
discounted Redshank as I doubt there was anywhere one could comfortably sta=
nd. Unless of course it was up to its neck in water and was calling for ass=
istance :))
Geoff's suggestion of Water Rail certainly fits the habitat, and I know Wat=
er Rails are relatively common around there.
Many thanks for your input it is much appreciated.
Phil
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On 19 Jun 2012, at 11:25, David Darrell-Lambert <> wro=
te:
> Hi Geoff,
>
> An interesting response but I will still go for Common Redshank, when the=
y are breeding they also give this quieter version of their alarm. I have b=
een working on a site (without and reed beds or sedge) which has a gravel i=
sland on it with Ringed Plover, Little Ringed Plover and Common Redshank. T=
he Common Redshanks give this call before they start displaying or giving t=
hat strong alarm call. I know the Water Rail call you are referring to, for=
my ears it sounds more like the call of a Great Spotted Woodpecker. As I d=
on't have a recording of Water Rails giving that call I will listen to Xent=
o-Canto to compare. I have heard this call during winter at site where they=
don't breed.
>
> I have to say when you know the habitat a bird is calling from, immediate=
ly your mind starts you thinking about specific species and narrowing it or=
IDing it straight away. With this recording I imagined myself in the North=
Hide with the bird calling in front of me. Out of interest before I end up=
eating humble pie which hide was it taken from? Island Mere and I am done =
for with no wafer habitat present.....
>
> Yours with knife and fork in hand
>
> David Darrell-Lambert
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> On 19 Jun 2012, at 10:46, Geoff Sample <> wrote:
>
> > Hi Phil
> >
> > It's water rail. I think this is considered to be male song. Females do=
it with a trilled squeal:-)
> >
> > I can hear why it might be thought to be the chipping alarm call of red=
shank, since in the recording there's not much low frequency content to the=
call. But when redshanks do the chip call, it's usually more rapidly repea=
ted.
> >
> > Water rail make all sorts of weird and wonderful sounds.
> >
> > Geoff Sample
> >
> > Wildsong Studio
> > Northumberland, UK
> >
> > http://soundcloud.com/wildsong
> >
> > > 5a. Another unknown call.
> > > Posted by: "macmang4125" macmang4125
> > > Date: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:02 am ((PDT))
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > This is probably something very common but for the life of me I can't=
identify it.
> > >
> > > http://snd.sc/Nab6ga
> > >
> > > Location: Minsmere, East Anglia, England.
> > >
> > > A quick and dirty recording, somewhat cleaned up, of the mystery call=
er. It was calling from the fringes of a small pool in a reed bed but was c=
ompletely hidden, aren't they all :)
> > >
> > > And help much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Phil
> >
> >
>
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